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Post by gumby on Jan 22, 2012 23:17:24 GMT -5
Thanks very much Laurasia I appreciate your help and understanding with this, we all have such common experiences and we can all help one another. I know that I've had this dream several times, and to be able to come here and share this is so helpful, I cannot share these emotions anywhere else. I have scaled down the picture and reposted it, it may have been to large a file to post. I remember what the plane looked like in my dream, because I got a clear view of it as it was coming down. Probably the pilot was trying to land the plane safely, but lost control on descent and hit the street hard, causing the plane to explode. I cannot get that image out of my mind, when it hits the street and explodes and breaks apart into dozens of pieces. What a sacrifice the pilot made for his country, and the defense of his beloved Germany.
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Jan 23, 2012 12:43:15 GMT -5
Gumby: I am glad that you were able to get healing out of sharing your dream.
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Post by gumby on Jan 24, 2012 0:46:58 GMT -5
Thankyou Miss Bothmann, it is a beginning, and now the dreams don't seem so frightening now that I understand what is happening. It really took a long time to get this far, for so many years I had these dreams and did not understand why. I know that the dreams won't stop, but at least now they are not so traumatic. It is amazing how this unlocks new understanding for me, I now realize why I get so upset when boys play with imaginary guns, making the sounds of gunfire. It still bothers me, but not so badly now that I understand that this fear came from a source in my past life during WWII in Germany. It is wonderful that this healing process can happen even now after all these years. That is a good feeling.
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Post by Laurasia on Jan 25, 2012 14:09:48 GMT -5
Hi Gumby. Well hopefully, even though you say that the dreams no longer bother you as much, as you continue to heal from these traumas they will at the very least not come up so often. I know that, even though you understand where these dreams/thoughts are coming from, they can still be distressing when they keep emerging. I am also in a rather peculiar state at the moment regarding my own healing journey. I am realizing that some things are not quite as I have believed them to be. And that will always be distressing, even if it turns out to be a good thing in the end. I am still learning though, just as we all are. As I like to say...Once we stop learning our soul begins to stagnate. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by gumby on Jan 25, 2012 23:09:09 GMT -5
I hope that you are able to sort through all this, Laurasia. Sometimes it all seems so confusing, especially when we have dreams that seem conflicting. But I think that we can work all that out, that what seems impossible at first may be just another aspect of our past life, it may represent a place that we have never seen, it may look familiar and we may be able to eventually remember how the piece fits into that past life. If you think about your present life, and all the places you've been, lived, and all the things you've experienced, it represents an amazing amount of details which, if you were to remember these things in a future life incarnation, may seem like a bunch of unrelated things. Even when we think that we see things clearly, new details may emerge which at first we don't know what to do with. but on further analysis, things may make more sense.
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Post by Laurasia on Jan 29, 2012 14:35:14 GMT -5
Hi Gumby.
Well I certainly hope that ends up being the case with what I'm going through now! ;D It's just too much all at once for the moment. I'm sure that things will eventually settle back down into a "siftable chaos". LOL!
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by ignotus on Jan 29, 2012 14:58:01 GMT -5
Very interesting! I have always been interested by the BDM, but I can't find a lot of info on them. Ahh, no need for that..
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Post by gumby on Jan 31, 2012 22:17:33 GMT -5
Laurasia , it is always difficult especially this time of year to go through challenging tiimes, its like a struggle. And to begin the new year with all this on your plate, I know what you must be going through. Sometimes it is important just to find some time alone, or some pursuit of interest like an art class, just to forget our troubles for awhile. Thankyou ignotus, I am happy to share my memories of my past life, I had many good and enjoyable experiences in BDM, the unity we had was like a close knit family, and it build strenght and character. Sometimes I find myself yearning for that time.
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Post by Laurasia on Feb 2, 2012 16:40:05 GMT -5
Hi Gumby.
Interestingly enough I have suddenly found myself re-aquainted with & very engrossed in a particular subject, which is also directly helping me to sift through a lot of what is going on in regards to my lifetime as Hans. ;D
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by gumby on Feb 4, 2012 12:31:21 GMT -5
That is interesting. Laurasia. I think that many people will become engrossed in subjects and interestt that pertain to what they were in a previous life. Many people who pursue art, science, or history in their prevouls lives will tend to do that today. What is this subject?
I have been having a sudden upsurge in flashbacks and visions to my PL as Katie. I am suddenly having so many flashbacks that I can't keep track. I see myslef in many places, especially forests and walking in a city where the buildings are all german decor. I dont know why this is happening so suddenly but the visions are so clear for a moment that I almost feel like I am Katie once again. I will report back on this soon.
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Post by Laurasia on Feb 9, 2012 17:05:42 GMT -5
Hi Gumby. Oh of course we will retain interests from one life to the next (hence my addiction to crime shows LOL!), but I am referring to the study of numerology. Years & years ago I was interested in numerology, but the book that I had on the subject was very complicated in its' language so I gave up my study of it. Recently though I suddenly came across a much easier-to-understand book on the subject & have been absolutely blown away by it! It has offered enormous insights into not only myself nowadays, but Hans & the connections between the two of us....as well as my connections with other people in my life & why they are the way that they. So you are being bombarded with your WWII lifetime as well now? Hhmmmm.....I really wonder if there is a particular reason that all of us seem to have these things coming up at the same time? Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by gumby on Feb 11, 2012 22:53:45 GMT -5
This is good to be able to understand more about these connections, there is much symbolism in our dreams and visions that is difficult to interpret. It is strange how we all seem to be experiencing this sudden surge in these PL and related experiences. I have been experiencing dreams and visions which I have had prevoiusly, but now more intense where I actually can see more detail, even the smells of a certain place. I have been finding myself in a church, and I belive that this church is the one that I attended when I was Katie. It is a huge church inside, with a large balcony. I am standing up on the balcony and I can see down towards the main Sanctuary. There are tall carved-fluted marble pillars which run on either side of a central aisle, and off to the front left side of the sanctuary are stairs that go downwards to a door, this door is arched. There is a lot of mahogany type dark wood panels on the walls. Not much art work like paintings or statures, so this is probably a Protestant chruch. There is the smell of wood in the church, like furniture polish that is used to preserve the wood. There is something odd about that church, a feeling of being haunted down there where the stairs descend towards that arched door. Beyond, a hallway with many doors. It seems like a very old church, sometimes we enter from a side entrannce and go right into the sanctuary. This church is on a street that has many other stone facade buildings. P.S. After I wrote this I did some google searches on churches in Stuttgart, and I am sure that I have found the very same church that I have been seeing in my dreams. Here is an old photo of what it looked like probably in the 1940's
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Post by gumby on Apr 29, 2012 0:13:13 GMT -5
I had this horrible dream last night. In the dream I met Joseph Goebbels, I was close to his face in a darkened room. He was speaking things in German that I did not understand, and I was talking to him in German so that I could not understand my own words. I must have been Katie, yes my voice was soft and feminine. I think that I was telling him to get away from me, I said that I hated him, and was afraid. I got up very close to his face, and when he was finished talking to me, he hissed like a snake, and his tongue appeared to be forked like a snakes tongue. I was so terrorfied, and my heart began to race, I felt so much darkness and forboding evil from this man, I had to get away. Stop! Get away from me! You will not take away my strenght, my will, I will overcome you! I woke up from this dream panting and my heart racing within my chest. I really felt like Goebbles was still alive and he was coming after me. This was like a spiritual war in some plane of existence where good battles evil in perpetual conflict, like the center of a cyclone, and storm and tempest with no resolution.
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Post by Laurasia on Apr 30, 2012 14:12:16 GMT -5
Wow! What a terrifying dream Gumby. I can definiately say that I would have been quite relieved to find myself awake & in bed after having a dream like that. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by gumby on May 12, 2012 23:04:52 GMT -5
Yes Laurasia it is a wonder that I survived that dream at all, because as I reflect back on it, I felt like it was really happening, and I was so full of fear and anguish in the dream that I felt as though my soul were being torn from me. Yes I must say that I am glad that it was only a dream, and to that degree it is a relief that I am still alive. There is something about the soul where when one is confronted by complete evil, the energy is draining from the soul. This is how I felt in the dream, like I would be totally destroyed by this man, even in the afterlife. I wonder if evil could be so strong and intense that it could carry over into the afterlife, that is a frightening thought. I think that when I was Katie I probably became very fearful of this man, when I was young I may have believed his lies, but later I came to know him for what he was, a deciever and manipulator, bent on the distortion of the truth. I know that Katie would have never trusted such a man, and it was probably this which caused her first doubts about the Nazi agenda.
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