Site Poll: Perpetrator or victim?

[miriam4310]

I was a victim - I believe I committed suicide in either Auschwitz or Auschwitz-Birkenau. I am very new to all this, but FINALLY everything is making sense.

[amaraeon]

Ah...I wish I could say I was good but then I'd be lying. Unfortunately I was a member of the S.S. with memories of being stationed both at Treblinka and Dachau - if I'm not totally mistaken and imagining things.

[Demi]

Sometimes I don' know! For a long time I thought I wasn't there at all, but then I started having all those intense experiences that I am still working on, taking notes, working out... ! A few of them had the possibility of being a victim/prisoner, altho most of them relate to Fritz Glocke, a guard and administrator at a small prison camp, who was later transferred to a bigger place. I still sort of wish to know; was I there and which one is it?!

And my strong interest in Birkenau. Even the fact while visiting there as a teenager, I was knowing which parts of the camp are north and south. Based on the maps I had I thought it differently, until I checked on google maps a few days ago and realized that the maps I used to study were wrong, and indeed I was right about the directions. Could it just be the sun or... what!

Getting a LOT on SS officer Fritz Glocke lately and, oops, been having him since I was 14 in fact; and resonate a lot with the Nazi PL's in here, so... well..

My goal about this... to find out whether it's real or not...

[gumby]

I was a civilian but certainly a Nazi as all citizens of Germany in the Third Reich were required to be Nazis. We had to enter the HJ at age 10, the BDM, and we were expected to serve with dignity and full cooperation. We did learn many skills in the organization, and also helped to promote the arts, dance, and music. In the early years everything seemed like fun and games, then our call to action to support our troops in Vienna. We gave all that we had to support the soldiers, if even at times that meant a hotel room with a soldier about to be sent to the front lines. That's the way it played out much of the time, some girls would have more than one encounter with a soldier friend. I only loved one, I could only give my heart to one man, and this was true for many other BDM girls. But yes we helped our troops, we lifted their morale. We were all trapped in this Nazi frenzy which swept the nation, we were young and full of energy, eager to sacrifice for our country.

[stormflux]

I suppose in being an SS-officer I was a supporter and a perpetrator. But I would only consider one to be a perpetrator if they acted on crimes against the various groups in question or else remained silent or ignorant to the actions of the nation. I did neither, and even expressed my disapproval to Hitler himself, and found foolish little ways to try "sticking it to the man" to let Himmler know how I felt about his views. I think it was my rank, position, obvious support of the party and it's goals aside from genocide (because that is what it was and we won't use the terms they preferred to use instead of) and friendship with Hitler that kept me from suffering the fate of many or most others who spoke out. It was a complex situation that required treading carefully whilst appearing direct and a tad restless, but I had a knack for such things. In any case, I won't have a special option in the poll made for folks like me. I just wanted to more or less defend my reputation, tattered and tarnished as it is in regards to that life in particular. It makes me feel better to know I did, even if it doesn't matter.

Edit: I just noticed there was an "other" option, but I still would have clicked perpetrator, because overall, I was a dog first and foremost. My crimes may not have related to the Holocaust but I certainly contributed to the chaos.

I will maintain that the chaos of war was not Germany's fault alone. But I think in this company, we are all aware of that.

[maxie]

I voted on the "Nazi" option as I was a perpetrator. I was involved with Auschwitz and various other camps.

[Haanz Hoffarwndez]

I was a SS officer and I was married to a Jewish woman which sadly I had to killed her at the end of our lives in order to protected her from the Nazi tortures and concentrations camps then I killed myself!

[katannallee]

I am not sure but am wondering about the possibility because of some early childhood dreams.

[wehrwolf]

Voted- Nazi

[schultzie]

Nazi.

[littleredshoes]

I was young Jewish girl in a ghetto and was killed before reaching the concentration camp.

i HAD many RECURRING DREAMS, TEH SAME EXACT DREAMS, all throughout my elementary school years. It was not from TV as we only had 3 channels and was never exposed to Europe ro have even seen photos of it or heard of the holocaust. The dreams were vivid and my recollections of how european streets looked were confirmed later in life. I will tell of my dream in another thread and of the dream I had the past few years, the one dream that was the continuation of the first one and completed the story. I never had a dream since the story was completeed. I suffer the consequences of my experience in fears of mine and certain things that set off a negative feeling. I had told my story on another forum I believe the Shoah Dream pROJECT BUT Rabbi Gershom was not adding any more stories as his book was complete.

[sc71]

Not strictly a Nazi, but was German and served in the Luftwaffe.

[Excitable Nihilist]

To be honest, I don't know who I was exactly... (I'm planning on going to see a past life regressor/hypnotist to find out any of my past lives.) Though I'm not (yet?) fully aware of who I was.

I've had an unpleasant experience with a campfire on a school canoe trip last year. The wind blew up some ash and when it stopped, the hot ash went right through my life jacket and coats. I felt a burning sensation on my back and I began to cry, because it felt so frightening for me. If this discomfort with fire means anything, it probably meant I was a Holocaust victim.

Then again, I've had a dream in which Adolf H. kissed me on the cheek. He was rather friendly with me too. Maybe I was a Nazi. Or maybe he was kissing me goodbye as I boarded a bus to a concentration camp... I might as well choose "Other." But maybe there was one Nazi who was burned to death...?

[Laurasia]

Hello Excitable Nihilist.

Welcome to the forum. If you're not sure what you side you were on right now, that's fine. Oftentimes things are not black & white. You will become aware of the truth when you are ready to face it.

One thing though...if you were a victim (especially a Jewish, or other minority, victim) I doubt that Hitler would have "kissed you goodbye" since he believed minorities to be vermin. Unless being kissed by him in the dream was meant to be symbolic.

Anyway, it will all come when you are ready. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to PM either myself or one of our Moderators, Msmir & Lizzie66.

Sincerely,
Laurasia

[mikhail]

I was a Nazi chemist in the 30s, and I was one of the people working on the atomic bomb. I put “other” here because although I was technically a Nazi, I wound up being arrested and died in a prison in what I believe to be the town of Berwitz prior to the opening of the concentration camps. It’s all very confusing because I have little historical facts about this.
I know from past life memories, regressions, astrologers and psychic friends that this is accurate though.