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Post by Demi on Dec 26, 2013 16:13:20 GMT -5
Just found this quote and sharing because I feel it gives an explanation of how and why young people were lured into the ideology, which could sound credible and noble... unfortunately too many were too ignorant or crazy and did such awful things as a result of it. Hitler himself also got it twisted that way, pushing to make the war, of course.
A quote by SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Leon Degrelle, a foreigner:
"German racialism has been deliberately distorted. It was never an anti-"other race" racialism. It was a pro-German racialism. It was concerned with making the German race strong and healthy in every way. Hitler was not interested in having millions of degenerates, if it was in his power not to have them. Today one finds rampant alcohol and drug addiction everywhere. Hitler cared that the German families be healthy, cared that they raise healthy children for the renewal of a healthy nation.
German racialism meant re-discovering the creative values of their own race, re-discovering their culture. It was a search for excellence, a noble idea. National Socialist racialism was not against the other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all other races did the same for themselves."
All the best, Demi
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Post by Storm on Dec 28, 2013 7:03:42 GMT -5
German racialism was definitely abused by those who served other masters and who had their own agenda. 
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Post by Demi on Dec 28, 2013 15:59:08 GMT -5
Abused no doubt. Everyone... 
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Post by Laurasia on Jan 13, 2014 17:53:36 GMT -5
Hi guys.
While what SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Leon Degrelle says is indeed true, I recall there being a lot of "we don't want 'them' around to muddy things up for our people either" taught to us as well. Not that we were necessarily taught that other races should be physically exterminated (if we had been taught that the Einsatzgruppen actions wouldn't have been such a shock to us), but that we did not want other races within our environment & society.
So while it was about making our race better, we certainly were not completely comfortable with "wishing that all other races did the same for themselves" alongside us either.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Demi on Feb 4, 2014 12:49:32 GMT -5
Agree on Laurasia's point about the NS party not wanting other races around, and also the idea of expansion of own race's living space at all costs. I think Degrelle points out the positive aspect, at the same time there was a fear of the other races, not recognizing them as equal, blaming everyone else for Germany's misery, and this (as well as greed, etc) is what led to disaster. And any such twisted beliefs ends up in suffering for everyone involved on all sides.
All the best, Demi
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Post by Leutnantzursee on Jul 21, 2014 23:54:25 GMT -5
Oh boy - harsh stuff  we were duped and that sticks in my throat so much, especially the notion of 'cleaning up' the German race. This was how the exterminations began with T4, by ridding society of people with disabilities or mental illness. Yet for me as Emil at the time, with the exultation of who we were, our history and culture, the advancement of our economy, it was a magical time. For the young and being of that generation who were indoctrinated in the HJ, we accepted our superiority as a given and Emil had a competitive and driven disposition, that I totally lack now, so he was well-suited to Nazi ideals. He bought into it hook line and sinker. Now, when I think of it and Lisi's death because she was a 'social undesirable' I get mad. It worries me greatly that people with disabilities suffer the most in today's neo liberal F**k 'em world, values re-emerging, which are chillingly like those upheld in the Third Reich.
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