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Post by orca on Oct 21, 2012 12:25:33 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, This is my first post and I wasn't sure where to put it. I am an energy medicine healer in real life. I've always known I had some connection to what happened in the Holocaust, from an annihilation/Jewish pov but it didn't really bother me to the point that I could not function.
Yesterday I had a client who, unbeknownst to me, was in the middle of huge crisis struggling with vivid memories of being destroyed in a death camp. It was pretty horrible. And because I am a seer to do my work, I literally saw and felt everything she did. She was telling me of it all and it was pretty traumatic beyond words.
I stayed into my professional mode and was able to help her release the horror and pain of flames as she was burnt, the ovens,, etc. It is too graphic to share here but suffice to say that when I wound up seeing and feeling the whole thing as if it were happening right now, like a 3D movie in SurroundSound theatre.
She is doing much, much better now. But now I am not. I am haunted by what I saw, felt and heard through her body.
I have not heard of past life trauma being passed from one person to another and I don't know if this is all just activating a part of me that always knew of this kind of horror or what.
I understand talking is helpful. I am glad my client is doing better but now I am not so great...I have worked with a lot of trauma before but not felt like this. Has this happened to others when hearing about PL trauma? I don't know why it affects me more than the other clients I hve worked with. Maybe because it is more personal in my memory or subconscious?
Open to thoughts of people who have been working with this a while. Does talking this stuff through help. or are there times it just re-activates the horror? What I saw and experienced through my client's field was so horrible and now I cannot erase it from what I know.
Sorry for my newbie questions, as this is new to me. Thanks
Orc
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Post by orca on Oct 21, 2012 17:44:38 GMT -5
Thanks, NomadicSoul.
I am not sure -- I do know that this client was having problems with these PL memories before she called me. It was so bad she felt suicidal. So I don't think she was reflecting me because they started before I knew who she was.
I have no idea. I am empathic but this is first to actually see stuff like I did with her. I've worked with other people dealing with PL but usually I just get a strong feeling but not a sense of actually being there and literally seeing stuff. Maybe I've seen too many movies? I don't know. Today I've been doing some meditation to try to calm and clear this stuff from me. I just keep reminding myself that they are memories from another time and place, and that I can honor that suffering without having to relive the suffering again.
I do not know why this has never happened to me before with other clients who have been through equally rough stuff. I guess it's part of the mystery.
Orca
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Post by msmir on Oct 22, 2012 18:49:05 GMT -5
Orca I will send you a PM and let me think about how you can help her out.
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 1, 2012 13:48:24 GMT -5
Hello Orca.
My partner, Miss Bothmann, is also an chakra/energy healer (though not professionally, she only works on me). And she has sometimes had similar problems with grounding out the crap that she collects from me, so perhaps she can offer you some advise in that regard.
As for why this particular client may have affected you so strongly.....Have you ever worked with a client who was working through a Holocaust-related past life before? If not, then you having a holocaust-related past life may very well be the reason. Helping her to work through her own memories of the Holocaust may have shocked your own system due to repressed similar memories of your own.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Demi on Nov 19, 2012 13:33:13 GMT -5
Hi orca,
Yeah that sounds like something resonating with you personally... In my experience, when something is too strongly engaging, it is better to meditate and 'take out the garbage instead of going thru it again' as some people express it, in other words, while it's still strong giving it more attention and reliving the pain again might not be constructive for you at that moment. So I think you are doing the right thing.
And then there may be another time coming up when you feel you want to take a look at it. When you sort of feel 'ready'.
Often those experiences is *tough* stress coming out that has been literally stored in the tissues of your nervous system (this explains the phenomenon of feeling that something 'resonates') Often when you 'see' it, it's because the healing has already occurred!
Taking a break from thinking about it can be helpful to get it healed faster, at that point.
And to me, something strange happens... I've noticed the way I react to reading others PL experiences...
Reading PL Nazi stories gets me some sort of vibe, a discomfort on a deep level, as if I need to go and recover, sometimes as if I need a break for a while!
Reading victims' stories is v. interesting and gives me the whole picture; I do feel sorry for them but it does not have the same deeply emotional effect on me in the way the other thing does.
I wonder what's going on and if anybody else had this experience?
All the best, Demi
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Post by orca on Nov 24, 2012 9:40:19 GMT -5
Thanks, everyone. I'm still sitting with it. It's less hard-edged now, but it is still there.
As an update, my client had to be hospitalized this week. I had been working with her only via phone. I had no idea that she was severely underweight (less than 73 lbs) until her mom called me frantically to tell me what was going on and I immediately suggested medical supervision, just to be safe. I am very, very glad I did. It was pretty close... doing an intuitive read I could see she was extremely dehydrated. And I wanted to just say, you know, spiritual and energetic healing is great but if your body is literally dying away, it is important to restore yourself. Aurically, I knew she was underweight, but I never go the sense of how bad it was until her mom called. And interestingly, this client never mentioned to me that she is dangerously underweight.
So it is disappointing that folks don't use common sense and would rather wait for a 3rd party to tell us we are literally dying and need to go to the doctor asap... a seer is not the same as being evaluated medically, and I wasn't even looking at her in that way because she was always wanting to talk about trauma, not her body...if I had known she had an issue with eating, I might have watched for it. This client had called me because of energetic disturbances and PL stuff. So that is what we had focused on. This whole physical thing has been a surprise. Of course, now I can't help but notice the parallel between starvation in past life and the way she is starving herself now. It is not a typical case of anorexia --she actually loves food and wants to eat, but her body won't let her keep anything. Last I spoke to her mom, she cannot even keep water down, so she was severely dehydrated. The hospital has double checked, and there is no real underlying physical problem. This is emotional and energetic in nature (and PL too, I think). I will be working with her mom today, as she is a terrible wreck over all of this.
Anyone with suggestions on how to heal past life trauma of starvation, I'm open to hearing your thoughts. In this case, when I ping this girl's aura, it feels more like not wanting to live or not feeling deserving of living. It's not really the wanting to be thinner like a typical anorexic. It's something much more self destructive, very dark. I've had other psychic colleagues take a look, just for my own sanity, and they have said they are glad she is in the hospital because if she doesn't get medical intervention, she will die.
Once she is out of the hospital, mom says she wants me to talk to her again and do some work. I, of course, think she will be on some sort of outpatient treatment program. And that is great. It remains to be seen, however, if this treatment program will know what to do to address PL trauma. I'm hopeful but not overly so. They do not know this girl like I do, but maybe they can provide help a different way. But it's not a cognitive behavior problem as much as it is, well, all of these memories...I don't know if they will understand such things.
If anyone knows of a good PL therapist, I'm open to referrals and I will send to them.
Thank you!
Orca
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Post by Storm on Nov 24, 2012 11:31:29 GMT -5
Hello, I am a healer and a remote viewer. I am getting something very strong and I want to share it. It may be nothing but I feel I need to. I feel very strongly there is someone out there in spirit who was a part of what happened in this client's past life and who has formed a parasitic attachment, in terms of sapping this person's Chi/Vril/Prana/life energy, whatever you choose to call it. This other being is absolutely terrified to move on but is acting almost like the Aids virus and killing the host incarnate which is feeding it. This connection needs to be broken. The soul which is scared needs help to move on and the person should start to be able to keep enough Chi to start repairing and wanting to nourish and live a little. It will be baby steps, but they can get there. I am not experienced in this type of rescue work myself but come back to me if any of this resonates and you want to follow it up or you do not know anyone who could undertake this part of it. Many souls are absolutely terrified right now with the shift. Souls that are feeding off those who are incarnate. this other person could have been a relative or a persecutor or anyone with whom the client has formed an unhealthy PL relationship with. It is not in the interests of this other soul to kill the client, because then there will be nothing left to feed on in any case and they will still have to confront stuff and move on. I get the feeling the intention is not to kill this person, but to keep going in the wrong dimension, hence the need to feed, rather than to let go and let God. In fact it feels like there may even misguided love/possessiveness at the root of this attachment. When this bond is broken your client should start to have the energy needed to anchor their soul into their body and eat and start to build up strength, they are not well anchored right now mainly due to the lack of sustenance, but also due to being a rather ungrounded type of person in some ways. I really wish you well with this case. 
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Post by Storm on Nov 24, 2012 11:42:10 GMT -5
Ok, I am getting more, wow, really opened stuff here. Did your client ever mention having to or wanting to give away part of their meager food rations in the camp? Something was set up back then which is causing this. Some type of dependency for nourishment. And this is how it is manifesting.
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Post by Demi on Nov 25, 2012 14:21:16 GMT -5
It looks like she needs professional help right now. When she gets better, it's important that she learns some techniques to get rid of spiritual parasites. She seems to be open to spiritual counseling. Some kind of healing will help.
I also recommend that she learns to transcend (Transcendental Meditation is one of such techniques & course is covered with several types of health insurance), because during transcending your energies re-align in a deep, healing way and parasites and imbalances are cast off every time your practice, for perpetual protection.
All the best Demi
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 29, 2012 15:02:25 GMT -5
Hello Orca. There may be new therapists listed since I first made this list, but here is a link to our thread regarding professional past life therapists here on the forum.... Professional IARRT Regression TherapistsI don't know where your client is located, but hopefully there is someone in her area who can help her out. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Nov 29, 2012 17:55:08 GMT -5
Orca I really want to apologize. I said I would email you and I never did :/ sorry about that. I am usually much better with that. I have been going through my own roller coaster but... nothing compared to your client. Wow and I think SS3 is onto something. There are so many trapped souls that literally attach onto those incarnated. When the one incarnated is dealing with a certain emotion or facing an addition, the trapped soul that is craving those addictions or feelings will latch on... and the one incarnated will feel trapped and worse, and the soul that is attached is sticking around because it is getting more of what it "craves"... it's a vicious cycle that needs to be broken. Your client's suffering is quite extreme but attachment issues are extremely common for those who are dealing with any kind of past life trauma. Anyway some great advice and resources were given. Best of luck to you and to your client.
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Post by orca on Nov 30, 2012 19:40:28 GMT -5
Hi,
I'm open to any info anyone has on releasing parasites. It does seem like that is what is going on. How can this be done?
Thanks
Orca
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Post by nomadicsoul on Dec 14, 2012 18:17:46 GMT -5
Orca,
I can share some methods I have learned along the way but I want to know that she is being medically taken care of as well.
Regards, Nomad
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Post by orca on Dec 28, 2012 13:35:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses.
Update: She is now out of hospital. I worked with her with a friend who is a seer who says the parasite entity's name was "John" and he was an AIDS victim (hence the wasting away/starvation). John cares about my client very much, and on some level, thought he was protecting her by hiding her light. However, in doing so, he was draining her.
She is doing much better. I do not know if John is completely gone. I did what I could, literally figuring this stuff out on the spot and making it up as I go. Part of me still is not sure on this stuff but she is feeling better and the other seer says it is better.
Who knows, all I care is that she is doing better now. Gained 10 lbs, out of danger territory! She no longer has PL memories, but I don't know if that is due to the medication the hospital put her on. In any case, she is stronger now and able to do some more constructive work, in terms of trying to turn her life around. There is still a ton of trauma to wade through. The basic issue is that she never ever feels physically safe. She knows that intellectually but shifting it inside is part of the ongoing work. I'd be interested in hearing from people who have been able to shift this, if PLs included a ton of horrible trauma. How did one ever recover feeling safe again? Meditation? It doesn't seem to go deep enough into her field.
Meanwhile I still remember stuff I saw through her and I think it will be a while before it goes away for myself. I'm working on myself in that regard.
Thanks
Orca
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Post by nomadicsoul on Dec 30, 2012 16:40:34 GMT -5
Extensive reprogramming. Recognizing patterns is the first step. The next is realizing when you're falling into those patterns again, acknowledging and accepting your feelings (don't invalidate them) but using your intellect to remind yourself, it is fine, that is not happening again, etc.
I'm more of a thinker than a feeler so I'm probably not explaining very well...This is where a good therapist can come in handy...It's not simply an issue of energy work but of changing thought patterns and that, my friend, is an extremely difficult thing to do.
Even when she does manage to do this, chances are she'll have relapses. While I've moved through the most crippling phase of my anxiety I still have days where I just can't deal with stuff. It's my understanding that this is how it is for most people.
I know a lot of people eschew Western medicine and there are some dangerous quacks out there to be sure but honestly...This is really something that'd be better worked out with a proper therapist. There are those who are open to and understand the metaphysical. Her best bet is, IMO, with one of them.
Last but not least, Black Tourmaline. It's protective as all get out and it needs only infrequent cleansing. It's not going to "fix" this but it couldn't hurt. I personally love the stuff.
With all due respect, I really feel like this is a case of someone whose needs are well outside the realm of my expertise. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Regards, Nomad
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