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Post by sweetlunapie on Aug 9, 2010 17:58:41 GMT -5
I would like to politely request that there be a guideline that all content written by members be copyrighted. Is that possible?
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Post by msmir on Aug 9, 2010 20:29:47 GMT -5
Hi sweetlunapie, good point, Laurasia how do we go by this?
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Post by brooke116 on Aug 10, 2010 6:36:39 GMT -5
www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.htmlI was thinking this myself yesterday...as I'm sure many of us are working on books. I believe we can individually claim copyright to our own written expression of our ideas, but the the obligation to agree not to infringe on these copyrights lies with a group agreement, which would have to be stated in the TOS. Perhaps the best way is to claim after each essay, or contribution, that the work is copyrighted by said author.
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Post by sweetlunapie on Aug 10, 2010 7:29:21 GMT -5
That's a good idea, but I know on the Carol Bowman forum, the site rules state that all content is copyrighted by each author, so it's like a blanket statement. That'd be easier, but I don't know if it's as safe.
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 11, 2010 15:24:12 GMT -5
I can add to the site's rules & guidelines that members should not steal what is written in one another's posts without their consent & that, should it occur, they would be disciplined for it as a site member. I hardly think that would hold up in court however should someone decide to steal what a member has written in a post & publish it. From what I understand, simply stating that something is copywritten does not make it legally binding unless you actually pay for the copywrite. (MsMir, having been published already, would probably know more about this kind of stuff than I do.  ) Since being able to do that would mean each of us would have to pay to copywrite every one of our own posts....I would probably say that if you are sincerely worried that someone may copy your post & publish it, you probably shouldn't be posting it on any such open forum anyway. The internet isn't the most secure place afterall. I will add the rule to the sites' guidelines though.  Sincerely, Laurasia |
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Post by sweetlunapie on Aug 11, 2010 15:39:23 GMT -5
Laurasia, I do believe if one states that their content is copyrighted that's all you need. I would need to actually look that up again (because I have before) to say without a doubt, though. I'm just afraid to open up to much about my experiences because I don't want some random person on the internet making my memories into a circus act, which sounds paranoid, but I'm just very protective them, you know what I mean? I actually quite trust those who are on the forum, so I want to share it with them. What a conundrum.  Thank you for adding that to the guidelines! It is appreciated! Addition: Oh my gosh, I've been saying, "copywrite," instead of, "copyright." Sorry... That's not my point, though.  I found this: "How to Secure a Copyright Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration." (from, "Copyright Basics," p. 3, www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf) So, I think you just have to...create in general, and it's pretty much copyrighted. |
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 11, 2010 17:19:14 GMT -5
I can certainly understand your concerns Sweetlunapie. I have them myself regarding some lifetimes of my own actually. And you are very welcome for the change to the site rules. I love that you feel comfortable enough with the members here to want to share them with us. However, if it truly is that worrisome to you, you could share them with other members via PM if you find that more comfortable I suppose...or you can simply state that your posts are copywritten when you out them up if that's what makes you comfortable. (By the way, it's probably my fault that you've been misspelling the word...I misspell it a lot. LOL!) "There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration." As I stated before, I believe that the "advantage" to actually registering things is true legal protection against it being used by anyone else. Sincerely, Laurasia |
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Post by sweetlunapie on Aug 11, 2010 17:59:20 GMT -5
No, not your fault at all, look at the thread title! I started it, haha! Of course, we're all here to heal and we need to trust each other to do that, in my opinion. You're so right about that registration thing...it's obviously easier to protect your property if you have papers that you can wave around in a lawyer's face. Thank you for understanding! Hopefully, this does the trick, though; now, anyone who reads this KNOWS that they are breaking the law if they steal material, and that makes me feel a bit better. |
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Post by msmir on Aug 11, 2010 21:31:32 GMT -5
I just want to add that you don't have to pay a lawyer for copyrights. Once you create it, that is it. I did not pay any additional fees for my books to have the copyright. Once you write it, it is yours to keep. I also want to mention that if someone were to steal your info, and use it in a document, your info is saved into search engines and can be found easily. Based on that, that is plagiarism and you can sue for that if there is evidence of that!! No need to worry about that |
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Post by Demi on Sept 10, 2012 20:27:18 GMT -5
Yes I think that posting here like publishing and then copyright becomes automatic, if someone tries to steal your stuff, you can prove that you made it first...
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Post by Demi on Sept 10, 2012 20:28:21 GMT -5
Btw. who would want to steal my past life?
If they want it they're welcome... with the karma attached..!
BUHAHAHA! ;D
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Post by SwingKid on Sept 12, 2012 17:28:19 GMT -5
Copyright laws have changed over the years, especially with the advent of digital forms of creation. As they are now, once something is created it is copyrighted. With photography, once you click the shutter and that digital file is created, it is copyrighted. Same with anything you write. Once it is written or saved in a file on your computer, copyright protection occurs automatically. Unless, you are doing your creating as "work for hire", then the copyright belongs to the person hiring you, or you share it, depending on how the contract is worded. And then there is licensing...
You can register a work through the copyright office, for a $35 fee per work, but they won't do anything to actually help you in the case of copyright infringement. You will still have to retain a lawyer who specializes in intellectual property.
One thing to keep in mind, is that when you are using an anonymous moniker online, you are going to have to prove that is actually you who published that online if it did come down to a battle in the courts over who actually owns the copyright.
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Post by Demi on Sept 18, 2012 20:40:36 GMT -5
One thing to keep in mind, is that when you are using an anonymous moniker online, you are going to have to prove that is actually you who published that online if it did come down to a battle in the courts over who actually owns the copyright. I think that would be possible to prove obtaining an IP address from the owner of the DNS with a court's order..? |
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Post by SwingKid on Sept 20, 2012 16:34:42 GMT -5
Provided that there is a static IP and that the owner of the block actually pays any attention to the court order. These days, most IP's are dynamic and ever-changing and the blocks are held by large corporations who really don't want to get involved in anyone else's court battles.
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) Since being able to do that would mean each of us would have to pay to copywrite every one of our own posts....I would probably say that if you are sincerely worried that someone may copy your post & publish it, you probably shouldn't be posting it on any such open forum anyway. The internet isn't the most secure place afterall. 
I found this:
