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Post by rednight94 on Jul 31, 2011 21:32:09 GMT -5
I was talking to my brother today and something very interesting came up. We got onto the topic of dreams and he brought up how he had this reoccurring nightmare after this whole 'WWII In HD' series on the history channel. He told me how, in the dreams, he had been a POW and he just remembered being in this area where the toilets were (which he described as holes in cement). He told me how disgusting it was and there was dead people all over the place. I thought that was pretty creepy, especially when I showed him a picture of the toilets at Auschwitz-Birkenau and he said, "wow! That's exactly how it looked in the dream." Now , even though that's very little 'evidence,' I'm wondering if maybe he was indeed a POW during the war...?
Anyway, I was wondering if anybody on here has family who lived during the second war? Who possibly shares a similar fate as you? Maybe a reincarnated Nazi whose mother, or father, or whoever was victim even? Or vice-versa? Just thought I'd share! Thanks for the time, and I hope my brother doesn't care I just shared that....!
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Post by pixarfan on Aug 1, 2011 5:47:41 GMT -5
Weird! Does he believe in past lives?
Both my grandfathers were in the American forces during WWII, but one was an Army engineer, the other was a Marine, and I was probably a paratrooper. I don't think I would've "known" either of them at the time. As for my siblings, I don't know if they believe in past lives, so I wouldn't know who they were.
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Post by eiszeit on Aug 1, 2011 9:17:04 GMT -5
(I apologize if the formatting is off in any way: I'm using my mobile to post this.) Funny that this conversation should come up! I went to see a psychic back in June, one that I happen to trust a great deal, and asked her about something that had been nagging at the back of my mind ever since I started this journey. I asked her if one of my parents was back then, in WWII. I'd thought that my father in this life was also my father from back then, and I wanted to see if she could see the same thing. Apparently, my gut feeling was right; he was my father from back in World War II! It explains a lot about him in this life: he's quiet and kind of reserved, just like I remember him being back then, and knows an ungodly amount about the airplanes, guns, and artillery of WWII. My sister says that he was in the Battle of Berlin, died there too, so that would explain him being able to identify the airplanes on sight. Plus, I've always just gotten this vibe that I knew him from before. I have to say, though, I think our relationship is less strained this time around. I sense that "I" caused a bit of disappointment in him, starting from when PL Self was very young and continuing through the rest of their lives. I've worked hard to have a good relationship with him this time around, I think it's a big improvement I don't think he knows, though. Nor do I think it'll be easy to convince him. My father is very scientific and analytical (he was back then, too), and unless he has solid proof of something, he's inclined to write it off as false until proven otherwise. Funny story: my mother (who knows the vague details of my PL, save for the KZ) believes that he's my father from back then, too. She even told him "You and her are connected!" His response? "Well, Duh, we have the same DNA!" Way to miss the point. XD I am, however, determined to find something that will prove it to him. I'm hoping he'll realize it for himself, though. I don't know what good it'll do him to know about what happened to me (it was something that bothered him, that I just... went missing), but I at least want someone in my family that I can truly talk to about my PL. Like I said, my mother knows, but she doesn't know nearly half of what I know. I feel like, if my father knew, I'd be able to talk about it with him, and it would be easier. My mother, I believe she was from back then too. We believe that she was a baker, possibly of Jewish descent. She had a husband, and I think she had four kids or so. We think she was deported to a KZ, but she and two of her kids survived to be liberated. I don't think she lived very long afterwards, and we think she has a fear of thunder because of bombings and air raids. It all makes sense; she's like me -- anxious, nervous, wary. I'm glad she survived though, even if it was only for a short time. My biggest feeling of... not guilt, exactly, but that's close... stems from the fact that I didnt survive. I guess it's for the best, though. I thought about what would happen to me if I had, and none of the pictures are particularly pretty... Wow, I went on for WAY too long. XD I'll stop talking now.
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 3, 2011 13:20:54 GMT -5
Obviously Miss Bothmann & I were together in WWII. We both feel that her brother in this life was around back then too, but he is not open to the idea of reincarnation so I suppose we will never really know. It is interesting to hear of everyone's continued connections to people off-line from back then though. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by munchenruth on Aug 3, 2011 14:07:48 GMT -5
In my Intro post, I mentioned having a son I chose to surrender to a Christian family. I began remembering this right before I met my husband, but thought it was just my mind playing with me. Around the time he proposed to me, I let the cat out of the bag, just to show him what he was getting into before it was too late, so to speak. He then told me about some dreams and memories he had been experiencing for a few years and that he always found my eyes familiar and comforting.
He remembers the typical Third Reich boyhood-Hitler Jugend, propaganda, etc., but with a difference. He remembers being taught about Judaism and people hiding in the house. He remembers that after the war, his parents told him about his actual parents. What he remembered could have been remembered by hundreds if not thousands of re-placed Jewish children, but the fact he did not go through the classification process and that he was whisked away at night while an infant.
I recalled that I was told he was going to a baker in the north of Germany and that he remembers Soviet Occupation and delivering bread to soldiers, as well as those people hiding working in a bakery next to or under the living quarters.
Psychologists say that association with caregiver is established by 3 months. I gave him up shortly before he would be 3 months old.
I am so thankful that I have been able to cross paths with him again. I know there's no true reunion like you can in the actual lifetime, but the fact that I can have something similar, does help with all of the pain that comes with handing over a child. Especially since we can't conceive naturally.
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Post by munchenruth on Aug 27, 2011 23:41:38 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear when reunions can happen, especially when a do over of sorts can happen.
Last week, the reading for Sunday from the Old Testament was the part of Exodus about Moses being placed in the river. At 3 mos. of age. How could I forget that? I was a religion major! Made me burst in tears.
I think my father has a WWII past. (Posted in another thread)
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Post by jleaw on Jan 27, 2012 22:58:37 GMT -5
I was also just thinking about this!
Not to turn Plath on you guys, but I've wondered if my father might have had an SS troop PL. It always seemed so gross to me growing up, because he would constantly be watching programs about Nazi Germany, with unremorseful interest, excitement, even... Anway, we have no relationship and a terrible one when it was existent, so this is an interesting concept.
From the sounds of it, many people are trying to work things out by choosing to be reincarnated with PL enemies. Just to add, I think that even if the one family member (PL SS troop or victim) refuses to evolve and make a relationship possible, the other can still choose to become liberated from the experience and find some type of resolution in that.
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Post by Demi on Sept 7, 2012 20:08:29 GMT -5
It is strange because my mom who is VERY calm would get completely upset about anything about the camps, and almost go screaming... one day when I was 14, I left a book about Auschwitz in the living room and she threw it into my room, saying that I should not leave "that stuff out"... So it was me, a holocaust historian by choice and her the exact opposite. I had to hide from her that I am visiting the camps or she'd lock me up. My family suffered because of the war a lot, and lost our business... Had the war not happened I would not have lived a childhood in a foreign country with a lot of mean and racist people who ruined my life... There is every possibility that who did this in their PL could be me... karmic switcher... If I was designing the Universe I would make the aggressors incarnate in victim families so that's probably the way it works. All our own doing, always, whatever happens to us.
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Post by Leutnantzursee on Sept 12, 2012 23:51:21 GMT -5
It's funny, as I was only mulling over this topic earlier tonight, wondering if many of us had reincarnated into families of the allies who were victims of Nazism in some way. My father lived through the occupation of Jersey, so unlike most British subjects he had direct experience of living under the Third Reich. He disliked Germans naturally, he was very mistrustful of them, yet he conceded that not all the military personnel were monsters, far from it. He always had the good sense to understand that most of the common soldiers of the Wehrmacht, were just regular 'blokes' away from home and missing their families. Some were genuinely kind to the islanders. His most terrible memories were to do with the starvation, they really were in many ways living like people in the camps, probably having as little sustenance at times. He certainly always felt sorry for the Jews as he could empathize so well. I didn't have a great relationship with my late father either, now I wonder if he picked up something about my PL, its crossed my mind a lot recently.
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