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Post by msmir on Aug 3, 2010 18:41:07 GMT -5
Two weeks ago, my family and I went on a trip to L.A. California. The trip was a nice break from reality- which we desperately needed to break away from. We all need that once in a while. We visited Hollywood, had lunch at the newly opened Hard Rock Cafe over there. We also visited Beverly Hills and went down Rodeo Drive. The hotel we stayed at was nice and relaxing. We also spent a day at Universal Studios. It was overall a pretty fun trip. However, I had encountered something at Universal Studios which had brought back some unpleasant memories and feelings. I was quite anxious and even had some horrific flash backs during those few minutes over there.
My daughter wanted to go on the Simpson's Ride, which in itself was quite interesting. It was a roller coaster simulator which made the experience of being on a wild roller coaster quite real even though we were in a shaky stationary vehicle with a wild Simpson's movie playing around us. That in itself was fine. However, while we were lining up for the ride, we had to enter an underground area of the building where the ride was. The walls were Prussian blue, and people had little room to move around since the line was so tight. The area was small. Anyone would be anxious having to be stuck in a dark small area, being crammed with others. However, in my case, that incident brought back two memories.
One was being stuck in the cattle car, crammed among suffering people. And I had a very brief flashback of my last moments in the gas chamber as well. The walls being the color that they were. Again, being packed in between other people. It was very stuffy in that area where we had to line up. It got hard to breathe at times. I needed to remind myself over and over again that I was lining up for a Simpson's ride!!! That was it, just a Simpson's Ride at Universal Studios in L.A., California! Not being sent to my death in the gas chamber in Auschwitz-Birkenau. Thankfully, even though those moments on that trip were extremely stressful and did bring back traumatic memories. It was brief. The line moved quickly, and before we knew it, we were on a really wild ride. However, I wish I did not have to go through that incident which had brought back some very ugly past life memories on a trip that was meant to be relaxing.
Miriam
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 6, 2010 13:03:02 GMT -5
Hi Miriam. I'm sorry that you had to experience those memories during your vacation! (Though, as you know, many of my own recollections tend to come during the car rides of my own vacations. ) Perhaps it's because we are in such a relaxed state during vacation that our minds more easily open up to our recollections? I can imagine being stuck in line with your daughter was not the most ideal of places to have such a recollection come up though. I'm glad that you were able to enjoy the ride & the rest of your vacation though. I know how it feels to have a good part of your vacation tainted by having recalled something particularly disturbing. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Aug 6, 2010 22:17:14 GMT -5
Laurasia, so true that we tend to have memories come to us easier when we are in relax mode. The other times I have them come is if I am taking a walk alone, in the shower or late at night when I am sleepy. But the horrific memories do not come at that time thankfully. Memories from other lives do though. And no, I think the fact that my daughter was with me did not help because it was her past too (not the gas chamber though). Luckily she did not seem to care!! I am soooo glad. Spirit is really protecting her from remembering!! But otherwise, it was a great trip, and I still love the Simpsons!!
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Aug 7, 2010 16:16:47 GMT -5
Miriam, I am so sorry that you had to recall this on your relaxing time with your family. I usually do not have recalls on vacation, but I do get them in my sleep or when I am doing any form of meditation. Sometimes, they are the nastier ones that you wish you wouldn't have to remember, but your soul insists that you do. To calm myself down after these remembrances, I just keep trying to tell myself that...my soul needs me to remember this for some reason. That gets my mind spinning into gear thinking about what it could signify. It seems to take some of the horror out of it anyways.
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 7, 2010 16:54:45 GMT -5
Ha! And what about when you've already remembered them time & again? What is the point then? With many of my past lifetimes, Hans definitely included, I recall a lot of the "bad stuff" over & over again. Sometimes I want to just say "Okay, I already know about that!" It would be nice to get some different stuff more often, rather than keep remembering the same "wonderful" things over & over again.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Aug 7, 2010 21:06:00 GMT -5
Yeah not a fortunate time for me to remember that. But certain situations will trigger past life memories if the situation reminds you of something significant that happened in a prior life. Unfortunately, the area where we had lined up for that ride and the crowd reminded me of some very unpleasant things. I just kept reminding myself that I was about to go on something that was meant to be fun in Los Angeles. That helped put things in perspective. However, you will not remember anything unless you are on a soul level ready to remember. That is why I believed my daughter was calm. On the other hand, I do wonder about that. She loves to create her own plays with her stuffed animals and brings them along to places (I believe she was blessed with her creativity to help protect her from remembering anything that she is not ready to remember). During that time in line she created a whole little play and was enthusiastic about it. I wonder if spirit was telling her to get her creativity gift into gear during that time so she would not remember anything. Hmmm hard to know!
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Aug 9, 2010 11:35:48 GMT -5
Laurasia, hon. Perhaps Hans remembers these unpleasant things over and over again out of guilt. Just like with anything, if you feel guilt or shame for something that you did (or aided with), you will relive it in your mind repeatedly. An example I can give from a past life of mine (which, Laurasia, you know who it was) . I was in a fortunate position of absolute power over many people. Many things from that life I am proud of, but for some reason it is the one thing that horrifies me the most that I continually recollect. This was the time that I was so inebriated at a party that my emotions got out of control and I ran one of my best friends through with a sword...over a stupid argument. Not only did I feel instant guilt and remorse at having done this, I lost the trust aand respect of many people under me...most of whom I had known since childhood. What I am getting at is this. Of all the many things that I accomplished in that life, why do I always have to remember at least pieces of that argument that lead up to my friends death, or even the death itself? Guilt and shame. That is what I truly believe.
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 9, 2010 12:12:10 GMT -5
Miriam, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right about the whole "creative distraction" thing in order for her not to remember. And I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing aspects of her former life seeping into her creative outlets...even if she isn't consciously aware of it yet. I mean think of how many things we are selves look back on from when we were her age & say "now I get why I did/thought/felt that". Miss Bothmann, Yes I know that you're probably right. Though as you know, until I met Miriam & really started exploring things a bit differently, I wasn't aware of how much guilt I really felt over Hans' lifetime. I didn't recognize the guilt & symptoms of it for what they were. I guess then, the next question would be how do we get past that guilt? I know that I have to some degree via my latest healing projects (one being this forum itself ). By using those memories in a way to help others it has helped me with some of that guilt, but those same bad memories are still the most prominent ones for me regardless of any of that. ~sigh~ Maybe it's just to remind us not to be that type of person again. ~shrugs~ Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Aug 9, 2010 20:44:48 GMT -5
Laurasia, I deep down know one day my daughter is going to know everything, but I am happy that Spirit is protecting her right now from knowing what she is not ready to know. And I will definitely recognize the signs when it happens. I also sense it won't be in the too distant future either And yes I knew how much guilt you were carrying And to be honest a tiny bit of guilt is not such a bad thing only because it reminds you of the correct path to walk along instead of going down the wrong path again. In other words, it keeps your conscious awake. But you should never let guilt completely take you over. Just remember, you are a new person, on a different path. Yes you are carrying that baggage, like we all are regardless of what we may have done or what we may have been through in prior lives. But I feel you are doing an awesome job on correcting any past life errors and doing what you can to not only help yourself heal but to help others heal. No need to be hard on yourself! Karma is being balanced. Cheers, Mir
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Aug 11, 2010 13:48:34 GMT -5
Miriam, I couldn't have worded that better. *hugs*
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Post by Laurasia on Aug 11, 2010 17:37:18 GMT -5
Miriam.....~hugs~ You always know just what to say. I understand that I've been doing a good job at balancing some of the karma, the guilt still crawls back up now & then though. Which, as you stated, is most likely a good thing. God forbid, I should ever become desensitized about all of it again!
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Aug 11, 2010 21:43:27 GMT -5
Thank you both! And Laurasia, you won't, I promise!
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Post by privatetucker on Aug 15, 2010 21:57:59 GMT -5
Awww, I'm really sorry you had to go through such painful memories in the middle of such a nice trip. That really, really sucks. *hug*
I think creativity does play a huge role in both protecting one from feelings/memories that you aren't ready to deal with yet, and in dealing with the ones you have. I know it works for me- I let it out through fiction, for the most part.
And a lot of childhood play reflected it, too.
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Post by msmir on Aug 16, 2010 17:26:29 GMT -5
Thanks Tucker, it definitely is far from pleasant when a memory like that shows up during a relaxing vacation. I just got back from a mini-getaway and fortunately nothing happened this time Not memory wise anyway. Just some totally unrelated aggravation LOL. I would take that over that though. And yes I totally believe creativity will protect you if you are not ready to face something. As Laurasia said, I would not be surprised if my daughter acts out "scenes" that may have happened in her last life through her plays. Sometimes I wonder if she is already doing that. Right before she falls asleep, I tend to listen at her room while she is finishing up her "plays" with her stuffed animals (she has a crazy amount on her bed) and I could have sworn at times I heard her use lines like "please stop whipping me"... hmm maybe I am reading into it too much but it certainly makes you wonder!
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