Post by mccoyxyz on Feb 5, 2011 11:16:17 GMT -5
I've read considerably on the whole Holocaust topic, yet never seen reference to the above. Given we have a number of experts here, perhaps one of you knows.
In the early days, ie 1933, people were placed in concentration camps for having whatever politics the regime disapproved of. This was of course long before Jews AS A GROUP were arrested. Though of course some of the "politicals" would also happen to be Jews and/or homosexuals.
Which color badge takes precedence? I've never heard of anyone with two, but it may have happened.
As an example, take an editor of a Communist newspaper, arrested in 1933 politically (ie red badge), who also happens to be a Jew (maybe not in the active religious sense, but in the sense of the Nuremberg laws). By about 1940, would his badge have been changed to the yellow star?
This would all to some degree reach a head in 1942, when Jews were no longer allowed in camps within the actual Reich.
It may seem a frivolous question, but it's not, it affects overall statistics of different groups. You can of course only die once, but which group claims you as one of theirs?
Another way it could conceivably be a problem postwar (albeit this one would be relatively small) is posthumous changing of the actual facts. IE suppose you have a surname which could be Jewish or could not be, you are the surviving relative of someone who died as a pink badge (homosexual) or green badge (real crime). You may then try registering this person with Yad Vashem in the attempt to make his life and death have seemed more honorable, to cover up whatever shame you might have felt being related to, oh well.
Anyone care to take a crack at this? If someone can assure me it's probably less than 1/100 of 1 percent, then I'll assume it's a statistically non significant event, important to individuals perhaps, but not overall.
In the early days, ie 1933, people were placed in concentration camps for having whatever politics the regime disapproved of. This was of course long before Jews AS A GROUP were arrested. Though of course some of the "politicals" would also happen to be Jews and/or homosexuals.
Which color badge takes precedence? I've never heard of anyone with two, but it may have happened.
As an example, take an editor of a Communist newspaper, arrested in 1933 politically (ie red badge), who also happens to be a Jew (maybe not in the active religious sense, but in the sense of the Nuremberg laws). By about 1940, would his badge have been changed to the yellow star?
This would all to some degree reach a head in 1942, when Jews were no longer allowed in camps within the actual Reich.
It may seem a frivolous question, but it's not, it affects overall statistics of different groups. You can of course only die once, but which group claims you as one of theirs?
Another way it could conceivably be a problem postwar (albeit this one would be relatively small) is posthumous changing of the actual facts. IE suppose you have a surname which could be Jewish or could not be, you are the surviving relative of someone who died as a pink badge (homosexual) or green badge (real crime). You may then try registering this person with Yad Vashem in the attempt to make his life and death have seemed more honorable, to cover up whatever shame you might have felt being related to, oh well.
Anyone care to take a crack at this? If someone can assure me it's probably less than 1/100 of 1 percent, then I'll assume it's a statistically non significant event, important to individuals perhaps, but not overall.
