Capricorn and Darkness (a question)

[kapitanprien]

I've seen twice now, associations with Capricorn and the darkness (whether it be the subject of the shadow self, or whatever else there may be associated with the darkness).

I don't follow astrology, but where on earth did this Capricorn-Darkness union come from?

I tried to look it up but didn't get very far:

Capricorns are filled with the dark spirit of winter, but there is an innocence in that dark spirit, the innocence of a little plant or seed waiting for winter to pass by so the plant can grow. It isn’t the malivent darkness of the Scorpion, symbolic of decay: the Capricorn, who is ruled by Saturn, is a sign that is all about survival. In the Tarot the higher card of Capricorn is the Devil, and that is a much misunderstood card in its symbolism.

From: www.loewak.nl/astrology/tag/capricorn/

Edit to add:

Capricorn is the 10th sign of the Astrological wheel and the last earth sign in it. One would say this would make it the most mature earth sign but it is not so: Capricorn is in fact the first of the Earth signs, because its the Cardinal sign of Earth, where Taurus is the Fixed sign and Virgo, the final (Mutable) sign. Because of this the Capricorn from this trio is Earth sign most pure to its Divine source. Capricorn is also one of the darkest signs out of the Zodiac because it is ruled by Saturn: it is the darkest period in Nature, midwinter, when the plant tries to survive underground and the light is in its dimmest season of the year.

www.loewak.nl/astrology/all-signs/capricorn/

While I understand what is said above regarding nature - I don't understand the other types of 'darkness' connections. Could someone please enlighten the dark one here...?

[Laurasia]

I'll leave this one to Miriam.

Sincerely,
Laurasia

[msmir]

Saturn is meant to be a "dark" planet that rules discipline, old age, rules, bitterness, etc.. you get the idea. Saturn rules Capricorn so it would make sense that winter is associated with the sign. Capricorn is a sign that is all about serious business and there is no fun associated with the sign. That would explain the darkness. But winter is only associated with Capricorn in the north... in the south, it's summer! That part of it bothers me.. associating Capricorn only with winter because it is not entirely true.

[Iseke]

My rising is Capricorn and it is in several other places in my chart, so it is something that features strongly in me.

And it really is all srs bsns, for me anyway.

To me, the "darkness" of this sign is that it knows all too well the weariness of work and death--very important parts of our experience and the soul's cycle but not very easy things to think about. But those of us who understand these things on an intrinsic level do not have to struggle as harshly with Saturn's lessons, and that to me is a blessing.

[kapitanprien]

Ah ok, thanks Miriam.

Yeah - that is true with regards to the hemispheres...

Apparently I'm just an all over 'dark' kinda guy I suppose - Capricorn, the Finnish connection, the depths of the sea...

It doesn't depress me really - as for me it is a mix of romance and melancholy. I'd make for a good goth, but I don't like to wear black (surprise) and I have to surround myself with light colors in my apartment for the most part - otherwise I *do* become depressed. It's more of internalizing and integrating the darkness than externalizing it say in the form of wearing black.

I'd have to agree with Iseke with having a deeper understanding of it. It's just something I've noticed having passed through many spiritual boards/forums/groups ...that many do have a difficult struggle with the darkness.

[gwida]

Dec 15, 2010 22:36:24 GMT -5 msmir said:

Saturn is meant to be a "dark" planet that rules discipline, old age, rules, bitterness, etc.. you get the idea. Saturn rules Capricorn so it would make sense that winter is associated with the sign. Capricorn is a sign that is all about serious business and there is no fun associated with the sign. That would explain the darkness. But winter is only associated with Capricorn in the north... in the south, it's summer! That part of it bothers me.. associating Capricorn only with winter because it is not entirely true.

Wait... so moving to NZ from Russia just made me grow up a freak 'cause Cappie's not used to summer?! (LMAO!!!)

As far as I know, I'm Capricorn, Pieces rising (like, 20 something degrees...) and Saturn is in Aquarius in the 7th house. So not only do I try to chameleon myself to my surroundings, I try to rebel against time! (Can't count how many times I've said watches and clocks were my arch-nemesis! XD) Plus I'm indecisive, so I take forever to make a decision (especially about who to trust).

Oh well, looks like sometimes time runs out on me and there's not much I can do about it! ;D