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Post by Sunstar on Nov 20, 2012 19:00:31 GMT -5
I hope, you're fine! I came across this forum some time ago, and I am absolutely amazed about it. It's so fascinating, I can't stop reading your stories! I am very glad that there is such a positive website like this, where discussion and spiritual healing for both sides, past life nazis and victims, can take place. This is really awesome and so I decided to join. As to myself, I'm 29 and I live in Germany. My family is of polish-german origin. Of course, here in Germany everything that has to do with the Third Reich or WW II is a very sensitive topic and you have to be very careful when talking about it. I could not find a website like this in german on the internet. And even if there is one, I guess it would be too disturbing and too controversial. I think, it is still a bit different to look at all of this when you live in Germany and when you have grown up in this country with all of its horrible history. So that's why it's even more amazing and fascinating to me to read your stories and comments here on this forum. Sometimes, from my point of view, it's even a bit disturbing - hope you understand - but I get used to it  LOL But the main reason I came here, is that I had a very strange dream and I think it could have been a past life memory. In this dream I was apparently a SS member during what seemed to be the evacuation of a camp in winter 1944/45. I will tell you in detail about it later, if you like. I'm not sure, whether this was really a past life memory or just a dream. But this dream has stayed in my mind for almost a year now and it bothers me still. Since then I can also feel that on a spiritual level there is a lot of pain, sadness and despair on both sides, which needs to be loved and healed! So I want to thank all of you so much for sharing your stories and past life memories and for contributing to the healing process. This is so wonderful! Please continue the good work! And as a German I'd like to say that I feel very sorry for everything that happened in the past, that it makes me very sad and ashamed when I think of it, and that I wish that it will never happen again nowhere in the world! So take care and liebe Grüße to all of you!  Sunstar I hope my English is ok 
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Post by Leutnantzursee on Nov 20, 2012 19:52:22 GMT -5
Hello sunstar... Welcome to SR :-) I'm not sure, but I think you might be the first present life German we have as a member! I completely understand the position you must be in, I know from my friend in Bavaria that such subject matter is highly sensitive and it has actually been very cathartic and fascinating for both of us to discuss the war. She has said to me, that she thinks Germany has reached out more to the East (Russia/Poland) than the west in regards to healing and opening up. Even though she's skeptical about reincarnation she knows about my own PL and also knows an American man who believes he served in the German army during WW2 - even she has to admit, that's rather odd! I know its very taboo still in Germany to open up much about the Third Reich and in many ways I think that's sad, dialogue on the subject has to be healing for both sides and I don't think anyone from your generation needs to feel guilty :-) We have sometimes discussed on the forum whether many of the younger generation of Germans are from the allied side in this life, so its curious to hear you say you remember an SS past life. I can understand how lonely this must feel for you, I hope joining SR can help you and allow you to talk about a subject that's so very difficult. We look forward to hearing more about your memories when you feel ready to share them, as you know we are a very tolerant and gentle community, all dealing with trauma no matter which side we came to in that life  Your English is excellent btw - although there seem to be some odd typos in your text!
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Post by Sunstar on Nov 25, 2012 8:16:02 GMT -5
Hello Lizzie! Thank you for your friendly welcome and for your understanding!  And sorry for the typos - no idea where that came from  I actually couldn't see them until I used a different computer! Very strange ... but I've corrected it now  Well, it would really be interesting to see whether former allies are now incarnated in Germany. That would be really awesome! Unfortunately I do not know any, but if I find someone I'll let you know  For me 'being back again' in Germany feels somewhat like I am here to enjoy a life in a period of peace this time. No more war, no violence, no fear. I believe, I'm here to make my peace with myself and with the country and its people, to let go of all the negative emotions towards it and to see the good things about Germany again - yes, I guess I was really disappointed after my life in the Third Reich! You will always be confronted here with history in some way. That is complicated, as i said, but healing a Nazi past life can be very intense because of this. And it is very interesting, too! When I think about it, I wouldn't like to have it any other way  I like that idea. And I think our souls are wise enough to know where to incarnate again  I can imagine that it was cathartic to discuss the war with your friend - for both of you. On the one hand there is a lot of education about it, in school, in media, from historians and politicians. As teenagers we were overloaded with that topic in school (that's why there's always something like feeling guilty and the need to apologize in me)! But on the other hand most people do not discuss this topic among themselves: it's often a taboo in the families, some people seem to fear it, some even feel bothered (for example whenever a new movie or documentation is shown on TV) because they think that it was already said TOO MUCH about it. I think that's wrong and very sad indeed! It's like a defense reaction. And the wounds still run too deep on both sides. And some people are in fact Nazis in their hearts but don't show it openly! You have to be carefull with them, that's really true! But there are very tolerant, open and interested people as well, young and old ones. But in general, I find it easier to talk to the immigrants here about Nazi Germany and to make jokes about Nazis than to Germans ;D Hm, I can somewhat understand that there might be the impression that Germany has opened up more to the East than to the West. But I think that from the point of view of Germany - politically - there is more to clear with Russia and Poland (and of course with the Holocaust victims) than with the western countries. In the West everything seemed to be fine rather quickly, with the NATO and later the European Union (<- which is actually not so fine anymore...). So maybe here discussion and reconciliation was done early after the war, but was neglected later on, assuming that there is no more need for it? Maybe this is a mistake again... So it's very good that we are here  young people who remember past lives during that time, and who talk to and support each other! I'm really glad that I'm able to write to you about my thoughts and feelings, about my past life 'memories' or about the Germany of today. Liebe Grüße Sunstar
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Post by Sunstar on Nov 25, 2012 12:29:58 GMT -5
Hi SS*3! Nice to meet you! I am in a strange position because I am going to Germany next year and I worry about how it will be. Will people sense my alleged past life? It is a big worry. Don't worry about that! I'm pretty sure nobody will sense your past life. These thoughts are so crazy - they sound even funny! But I know exactly what you mean: The first few weeks after I had that strange dream about my past life, I was afraid that people would somehow realize that I had been a SS man in the past. I imagined myself being arrested, asked questions and put into prison because of my past life. This was so crazy! In that time I also made a trip to Berlin for a few days (because of some other reasons) and there I was overwhelmed by the historical sights, my own thoughts and feelings. And I really tried hard to be very friendly to the people there and to other tourists, and to not arouse any suspicion about who I was in a past life. Of course nothing happened! These thoughts disappeared after a while. But they come back at times. I bought a new winter coat recently, it's grey, just classical style and with a belt around the waist. I like it very much. But when I wear it together with my black boots, again I think: "Oh, my God! Everybody will see I was in the SS!" But this is just crazy! You might have a strange sensation when you come to Germany, but nobody will sense your past life. ;D Even if someone is a psychic, remember that you had many, many past lives. And you don't have to identify too much with only that one, but with the beautiful soul that you are and with the person you are now  You don't have to be worried at all about Germany. Most people are really friendly and open. Especially the younger ones like to meet people from other countries and most of them speak English. Where exactly are you going to and for how long will you stay? I had a teacher in school who was also very keen on Britain. He was a funny guy, everybody liked him. And he always spent his holidays in England, although he was no English teacher. We had to go on a school trip with him. All the other teachers went to Italy with their pupils, but he insisted that we go to Great Britain instead  Well, that was nice too, but most of us prefered to go to a warm place and swim in the Mediterranean Sea. Maybe he had once a past life in that country. I don't know  Liebe Grüße
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Post by Storm on Nov 25, 2012 13:13:01 GMT -5
Aw, thanks for your reply. I removed the original post as I only usually post in the Member Only forum. I will PM you with the answers to the questions about my trip. 
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Post by Leutnantzursee on Nov 25, 2012 19:49:13 GMT -5
Hello again Sunstar - and thank you for your comments :-) It really is very fascinating to have you here and as I say, this is one place you won't have to apologize or feel uneasy about your past life. :-) Yes, I agree with you about the need modern Germany has had, to find peace more in the East as yes, Nato and the post war occupation did much to cement a new relationship between Germany and the American/English Allies, although I'm sure you'd agree, it hasn't always been plain sailing! I do think we British are VERY guilty of nurturing a rather self-satisfied stance over the war, a sort of 'we won - hurrah for us' attitude! I grew up with a lot of anti German sentiment from my parents and grandparent's generation, and a lot of the classic war films we all watched as kids here, didn't do much to dispel the myth of the German 'monster', yet deep down I knew this wasn't the case. It was hard for me too, having this strange feeling that I 'knew' Germany in some way and was rather fond of it. All the Germans I've met, I've been very drawn to, in my own thread about how I stumbled on my PL as Emil who served in the Kreigsmarines, I mentioned an incident when I was a child, where I jumped into the lap of a German woman and proceeded to ask her loads of questions, much to my grandparent's chagrin!  My father - as a boy lived in Jersey during the occupation and he too, had his prejudices unfortunately, he really didn't like my fascination over the SS and other stuff like that, as you can imagine! So yes - I suppose for both sides, talking about Nazis in any other capacity other than - 'they were wicked, murderous monsters' was and still is problematic, at least in more mainstream society and as you point out, our best efforts at dialogue can be misconstrued as being that we support those values still - which of course most of us don't.  I often feel sorry for the old WW2 veterans in Germany, they like any other military personnel of that time, deserve to grieve without having to bear such a burden of guilt. I think their generation has had such a hard time, and as you say, nobody much wanted to open up about the war in Germany and clearly still today, its not something one can discuss without feelings running high. It was easier to pretend it never happened and get on with the 'economic miracle' and deal with the Baarder/Meinhoff gang I suppose, at least back in the 1970's when I was growing up! Today though, after 70 years, maybe people are beginning to revise history a little more, and to at least acknowledge that the rise of the Third Reich happened for many reasons and like it or not, as far as my own countrymen go, we had Oswald Mosley's 'Black shirts' in the 1930's, they had much support within the aristocracy, many of whom adored the Nazis. That's something the Allies don't like to admit of course! Out of interest - do you have any relatives still alive that remember the war? I love to hear their stories so much, my friend sent me emails with lots of her family pictures of that time and she explained how divided her own folks were over the issue of Nazism, some went along with it wholeheartedly, while others had their doubts. I'm sure hers was a very typical 'snapshot' of how the reality was for the average German citizen at that time. From a personal perspective because of my PL, I do honour those old servicemen very much, as much as I honour those who fell in this country - it was terrible for ALL concerned. I do wonder if the recent rise in Nazism is down to the suppressed need to talk about it in Germany - perhaps if the general public hadn't been made to feel so guilty, this backlash wouldn't have begun?  Although I agree, we were all complicit to some degree in allowing these horrors to unfold, much of it was a tissue of lies, it was down to clever manipulation and the need that a desperate society (following the collapse of the Wiemar republic) had to latch onto anything that offered hope to them. It still goes on today among leaders who don't call themselves 'Nazis' but who in their insidious way, act out some of those terrible policies. It's wonderful to have you here Sunstar - thanks for the brilliant discussion, its very interesting and refreshing to hear a modern German voice here on SR! All the best Liz 
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Post by Demi on Nov 26, 2012 16:58:30 GMT -5
Hi Sunstar! As far as the present day legal system goes, it is not possible to get arrested for your past life! Funnily, I have been thinking that sometimes too... It is unlikely anyone will 'sense' your PL as most people cannot even sense their own. Plus it would have to include all of your other past lives and times where roles were switched around too! As it is now, nature's self-regulating intelligence takes care of the karmic bank balance and no one else than that.  Although I can say that I have also sometimes been worried about someone sensing something... I've sensed right about a friend of mine being a reincarnated victim... then she told me just that. OMG, I recently had a 'fashion situation' too! I went shopping for a winter jacket. There were different colors and I really liked the grey one (in spite of that I usually like purple much more!) But the shade of grey was alluring to me, so I got it. Back home when I tried it on, I realized... it had a belt around the waist and a black fur collar and just the shape of it AND my haircut... and I was looking at Fritsi! Even checked online was it really similar? Yeah, apart from this one having some down in it. I went like OH! NO -nOOO! and exchanged it immediately for the purple coat... Which of course I regret as I like the other better! Oh well. (BTW I know you German guys spell it with a z? It is something his parents were calling him, and I spelled it from 'hearing', I've stuck with that spelling as I like it more. His name was Fritz) And btw. I grew up next to Germany, and I've been brain washed since baby to dislike everything German, even tho as a kid I was fascinated by the German city names, etc... and really into the Teutonic Knights too! All the best, Demi
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 29, 2012 14:05:02 GMT -5
Hello Sunstar.
Welcome to the forum. I am glad that you've decided to register here with us & I hope that you find the place beneficial.
It certainly is interesting to have a native German within the membership too. ;D I'm not really surprised that an SS man would reincarnate within Germany. Afterall, I've found that many of us former SS members would love the chance to simply visit Germany! LOL!
Indeed, there is no need for unnecessary guilt here. Though, being born & raised within Germany itself, I can certainly understand the degree in which you've experienced guilt over WWII since it is virtually ingrained in people there. (I have a German aunt &, though we were very open & loving with each other on every other topic, WWII was not discussable.) So feel free to share your recollections whenever you are comfortable in doing so.
Again, I hope that you enjoy yourself here. If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to PM myself or one of our other Moderators, Msmir & Lizzie66.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by msmir on Nov 29, 2012 18:11:38 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum sunstar  I hope you enjoy your stay. I am sure there is an awkwardness when it comes to remembering your past life in the same place where discussion of the topic creates a lot of discomfort. You can be open here and no one will judge  Best Mir
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Post by Sunstar on Nov 30, 2012 13:19:46 GMT -5
Hi guys! Thank you for your welcomes, your comments and your interest. I have read everything, but i am quite busy with my job and other stuff at the moment. I will try to reply and answer your questions later. Best wishes
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Post by gumby on Dec 2, 2012 22:08:05 GMT -5
Welcome sunstar I am so happy that we have met you. Your English is super! Typos? Welll us native speakers make plenty of those! lol I have a deep yearning to return to Germany, and I found your words touching; "For me 'being back again' in Germany feels somewhat like I am here to enjoy a life in a period of peace this time. No more war, no violence, no fear. I believe, I'm here to make my peace with myself and with the country and its people, to let go of all the negative emotions towards it and to see the good things about Germany again..." I feel the same, sunstar. I want to return to a Germany that was the way in my time of youth, when I was Katie, a lovely land of fields and forests, bustling, vibrant cities, and good people. I know that the scars inflicted by the Nazis were deep, and ordinary German citizens were also hurt deeply, especially after the war. Now see the recovery that Germany has made, now one of the greatest economic powers in the world. She has risen from the ashes, cities rebuilt, and the youth can embrace her, and feel proud once again to be German. That horrible war is now behind us, and it is easy to point fingers at whom is to blame. It is a negetive imprint on the country, yet we must remember that it was only one period of our history where things got terribly out of control, and it could have happened anywhere, considering the times and the overall progression of the world toward militarism then. Political turmoil, social unrest, economic failures, all these thing contributed to the course of events. I do want to return to Germany in this wonderful time of peace and prosperity. I am anticipating that in my next life I will return, and then all will be happy and good, there will be peace and prosperity, and Germany's prosperity will lead to a greater world prosperity.
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Post by Demi on Dec 3, 2012 10:22:41 GMT -5
Y well, they are paying for the EU now... The innate German qualities of orderliness and coherence can either express themselves as aggressive militarism or as the discipline necessary for enlightenment. The discipline and work ethics are responsible for the economic growth. By heightening consciousness they can manifest themselves more as an assets than as destructive traits. All the best, Demi
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