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Post by Storm on Apr 9, 2011 9:34:52 GMT -5
Does anyone know how to establish the difference between information gathered by Channelling, by remote viewing, and by past life recall?
You see, when I remote view, I see the stuff in my head in the same way I get what I have been assuming was past life recall. The same goes for when I used to channel. And the information was often very reliable.
Just out of interest I wondered if anyone else has knowledge of or experience of remote viewing?
Also, I have spoken to Luna about this and Miriam, but are there any perhaps lesser know practices that could further substantiate whether someone is reincarnated or not?
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 9, 2011 9:45:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't. All I can say is that when I was severely doubting my own situation - not so much with being a 'walk-in' but more of my own identity...I had used Mullein essence: www.anandaapothecary.com/fes-north-american-flower-essences/mullein-flower-essence.htmlPositive qualities: Strong sense of inner conscience, truthfulness, uprightness. Patterns of imbalance: Inability to hear one's inner voice; weakness and confusion, indecisiveness; lying or deceiving oneself or others. I used it to help me be more in touch with myself and not be weighed down by the post-war view of the Germans. This post-war view, I found, really hinders one's connection due to the whole 'collective guilt' thing. I want to put an excerpt from the description in here to show the connection: This morality must be generated from within; as long as laws or dictates are stamped on the personality from the outside, the Self will not develop real strength of character.
This remedy can be especially helpful when one must take a stand for personal authenticity, despite social pressure or confusing social mores. - my italic
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 9, 2011 11:20:03 GMT -5
Thank you, Kapitan, for the information You're welcome. I really need more 'proof'. I am so darned logical. My son is home from uni and, as a mathematician, his perspective is making me re-evaluate things. Well, I'm a logical person myself, but it boils down to - what do YOU consider proof? In my case I've had experiences that don't deal with the non-tangible, that were 'proof' enough for me.
The biggest was having found a 'Blue Star Line' mug in my mom's cupboard when there was no 'logical' reason (unless you consider coincidence and then it does become a 'logical' explanation). The 'Blue Star Line' was the shipping line that the Arandora Star belonged to. I had sunk this ship back in the summer of '40. Now the odds of this happening are so astronomical, that I cannot even begin to fathom them.
So what I'm trying to say is that you have to figure out what YOU consider logical proof where it concerns your situation.What worries me is what if I am stealing this guy's past? What if I have somehow accessed how he feels about stuff and am sticking my nose in where it isn't wanted? I tend to 'read' people and situations instinctually, and not intending to be invasive, but I find it easy to get access to people's thoughts and feelings. It is a skill I was taught at an early age by a friend of the family who was involved in parapsychological research. I was taught from 8 years old. Well you strike me as a very psychic person and I'm just going to put down some other essences that may help you 'clarify' your psychic abilities better:
Queen Anne's Lace: Positive qualities: Spiritual insight and vision; integration of psychic faculties with sexual and emotional aspects of Self.
Patterns of imbalance: Projection and lack of objectivity in psychic awareness; distortion of psychic perception or physical eyesight due to sexual or emotional imbalances.
www.anandaapothecary.com/fes-north-american-flower-essences/queen-annes-lace-flower-essence.html
Mugwort: Positive qualities: Integrating psychic and dream experiences with daily life; multi-dimensional consciousness.
Patterns of imbalance: Inability to harmonize psychic forces, tendency to hysteria or emotionality, overactive psychic life out of touch with the physical world. www.anandaapothecary.com/fes-north-american-flower-essences/mugwort-flower-essence.htmlI used to remote view military bases and got very reliable information. I got quite well known for it for a little while years ago. But I got out of it all as it got too weird. Ah again - see above essence references. I've used these myself and they're both very helpful if you have a really strong psychic side.Now I wonder if I am remote viewing the past in some way with this SS stuff? Maybe I am trying to justify the obtaining of all the information by 'feeling' that it is my past life, which would give me the perfect right to that information? But then why would I be getting all this emotional stuff about his wife and kids? Unless I am indeed channelling him? Oh, he is so so sad, my heart goes out to him, even if he is not a part of me. There is something so sad about Germany too. Only you can truly answer those questions. You have to find it within yourself somehow.
Cerato: Positive qualities: Trusting one's inner knowing, intuition; self-confidence, certainty.
Patterns of imbalance: Uncertainty or doubt of oneself; invalidating what one knows, over-dependent on advice from others.
www.anandaapothecary.com/english/cerato-flower-essence.htmlMy friend does not believe in reincarnation but she believes we gather fragments of discarded egos in the ether and form a self out of those, together with our own experiences. She believes we sort of redeem them that way, as well as cleaning up the karma, tidying the multi-verse. I can't agree with that only because of my own experience with the soul exchange - I had a life that was pure hell and now it's the exact opposite. I have totally different interests - not just in clothes and hobbies, but also food. Food I enjoyed prior to the soul exchange, I can't hack it now. So I can't 'believe' in your friend's view simply because of my experience and how things have changed.Maybe it really doesn't matter if I was him or not and I can choose to integrate him into me because someone needs to love him. But taking that on, if it is not mine, is rather like the reverse of you, Prien. You take on a body full of stuff that isn't yours, but you do it because you want to live and be you. I maybe take on aspects of identity no one else would touch with a s****y stick because I want to redeem the iredeemable, love the unlovable, and see if that changes the nature of that consciousness. That maybe doesn't make sense, but I think this is an interesting concept. It makes perfect sense to me. It almost sounds like a 'soul braid' though in that respect.It would be the ultimate test of my theory that love can actually heal all if I can integrate this dude into my overall consciousness and become an even more spiritually developed being. That would be awesome. I must admit I was sort of wanting a new spiritual challenge. I feel that love can heal.But it also feels there is huge risk potential. If I take 'ownership' of his residual identity entirely then I need to know I am not going to incur a fresh karmic penalty, and there is no way to know that. I want to find a really skilled shamanistic medium who can get into this in a deep way with me and try and find some more detail out about the spiritual mechanics going on. I know of one...he did a healing for me - including soul retrieval. He will ask for a small donation though, but I will PM you his information. If anyone else is interested please PM me.
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 9, 2011 13:14:07 GMT -5
Thanks, I have emailed him. You're welcome I can pay, that's no problem. What is a soul braid? From what I've read, it's where two souls mutually agree to cohabit a body. This is done for spiritual advancement and for one to be able to do things one wouldn't otherwise be able to do - to my knowledge from what info I have come across.
Soul Braids can be any number of combinations. Sometimes two souls will work in pairs with one choosing the birth and growing years and the other the later adult years. Sometimes soul braid is a catch all phrase for an over soul merge meaning a higher aspect of the same soul will down load and become part of a life experience.
Here is a link: www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/karmdict/kdsbraid.htm
and another: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ascension/esp_ascension_9.htm
As you can see, I came across the term while reading about 'walk-in souls' and soul exchanges. You see, I felt happy before all this Nazi crap! I am not prepared to lose who I am over this. And nor am I prepared to take on someone else's karma, unless I can grow and become even more advanced out of the processing of it. There is no point doing stuff that doesn't feel good, right? I agree. The thing is - should this really be a part of you - the more you repress it and resist it - the worse things will be come. That seems to be the general thing with healing.Yes, my friend has an odd take. But then I have changed even in terms of my height since my strange experience, so I think there are various ways that transformation takes place, it is down to the individual. I agree - it all depends upon the individual's circumstances.All I know is that I am logical in a scientific way, although I accept quantum. I actually think spiritual mechanics can be explained by quantum, unsubstantiable though both still are! I accept Miriam's reading, but there is still a question mark over his time of birth, which would alter it. I cannot get to the bottom of where some people online got his being born at 3pm from. There is no record of it. Yet the time Miriam and I used was from a guy who knows the family of RH. You would think that would be more reliable, but it also happens to be the exact same time that RH experienced the assassination attempt so somewhere a long the way it might have got mixed up. That's true and that's why I don't rely too heavily upon historical resources. I've learned not to do this in my own research as you can see with this link: priens-u-boat-site.webs.com/regardingmeinweg.htm Like I say, for me, I am always getting the emotional side of things and pictures/recalls about loads of things, so it is very hard for me to tell. I am extremely psychiic. I was even approached to join intelligence and utilised those skills in the past. Wow - yeah, that why I felt those essences would be of help to you. To be able to better integrate and balance that psychic aspect out better so you're not overwhelmed and things aren't distorted.For me proof is also about appearance. which many reincarnation experts do place a lot of emphasis on. I am not tall and blonde. Did you really see something of RH in that pic I sent you? I sort of do, but it is hard as I am so involved. Independent reviewing of information also counts as 'proof' because I am too emotionally involved to be able to really tell on some of these aspects. I did (angular shape of the face). I don't really follow so-called experts because they don't know me. Just like the thing on walk-ins - I don't fit every little 'description' of them myself. So I mainly go 'on my own' for the most part. Mind you, it hasn't been easy...but I feel stronger in my own 'inner truth' because of it.I guess what I would like is to get someone really skilled to do an analysis of this, as an outsider. To look at all the 'evidence' and to give me an opinion. So thanks for the details of the guy. He sounds good. You're welcome. I hope you get help that makes things better in any way shape or form.It is not really healing I want though, I prefer to work on myself, I just want to know if RH is part of my soul. Or if this simply a new spiritual challenge being offered to me to heal some karma from a person who affected lots of people, as I step into a more global role on some levels in this life. Well as I said - only you can answer that. Only you know you. I realize that it isn't easy - I've been there myself since the soul exchange happened and I had odd things going on, but...I was the only one in the end that could answer the question for myself. That's why I suggested the Cerato essence to help with that situation.
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 9, 2011 16:41:11 GMT -5
Reply to Prien's last post on Silver's thread: Yes, dreams are a good way to find stuff out. I had 3 dreams about dead people in woods that I felt responsible for killing. But in the last dream, when I got so upset I handed myself in to the police, the policeman just laughed and told me I hadn't killed anyone and to go away. I still can't work that out. I know RH did not physically kill the people himself, but he gave orders for it. SO that might explain it. But the dreams were in the UK. One was intersting in that the bodies were in the grounds of a mental hospital I used to live near, (I know they started off killing mental patients). The second dream was somewhere unknown to me and in the third dream I walked into a police station in Somerset of all places. I did wonder at the time if I had been a serial killer or something. I read loads of books about serial killers but I always knew I could never physically and coldly murder people for the sake of it, so I ruled that out. This to me sounds like you're picking up on 'residual energies' of your environment. Kind of like psychnometry and 'reading' the environment - all the while you got your own inner stuff going on - making you feel like you were the one that killed those people.I always believed I had been this sufferagette in between me and the 18th C lord. There is also a heck of a lot of karmic links with her too, and I was comfortable with that. Then my friend and I had a big row about the final solution. She said the way the world is going she just wished she could press a button and get rid of everyone. I said, 'no you dont', you would not be able to live with it if you did'. I compared it to the final solution and said that mass killing never works. I got upset and cried about it and she said, 'oh, you were definitley involved with that in order to feel so passionately about it'. I always have had this thing about, why did it happen. But then, so do a lot of other people, right? Ah yeah - I get the feeling there is much unforgivness that was 'brought out' by that situation. I don't know how else to explain this, but to me, your friend seems to have 'mirrored' that dark Shadow aspect - showing you that part of yourself that you have to forgive - if that makes sense. Only it was shown in a very 'extreme' way.RH came into my mind a lot after that evening and that is when I found this board. I suddenly thought, OMG, was I him?Then the more I induldged the notion, no matter how hard and painful it was, the more 'he' came through me. To the point where I began to feel like him, or at least feel his pain etc. But then, as I said in another thread, I am really good at channelling too so it's really hard to tell. I understand. I don't know too much on channeling so I can't really help you discern between which is which.I am very confused right now. I am such a sucker for a sob story I may have allowed myself to be spiritually conned, lol! Ha ha, serves me right for being too caring about those who society hates!! The rejects and 'evil' ones. I always want to find the good in them. It's ok - I think many of us have gone through periods like that. I know I have believe me... And I understand wanting to find the good as well.If it really is my past life, I will try and deal with it still. My friend also said that one can have been two people in the past simultaneously. She is a really well known healer and psychic and very well thought of, so maybe she is right. Maybe I was RH and the sufferagette? There are spooky links between them both too, which I only just found out. Who knows. This is why I'm agnostic - we're dealing with the unseen world - something which we know next to nothing about. Heck, we don't even know everything there is to know about the seen world let alone the unseen.
I understand that souls can fragment (hence soul retrievals) but I personally don't believe in twin souls or split souls - but that is just me and I am only speaking from what I personally experience - not from what someone else tells me.
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Post by silver on Apr 9, 2011 17:02:04 GMT -5
Then my friend and I had a big row about the final solution. She said the way the world is going she just wished she could press a button and get rid of everyone. I said, 'no you dont', you would not be able to live with it if you did'. I compared it to the final solution and said that mass killing never works. I got upset and cried about it and she said, 'oh, you were definitley involved with that in order to feel so passionately about it'. I always have had this thing about, why did it happen. But then, so do a lot of other people, right? Just wanted to say that I can really relate to that. There's this question, probably designed for bored people at the pub, where you ask if they would kill so-and-so for a certain amount of money. Then, when they (usually) refuse, you say "Okay, how about there was this button, and if you pressed it they'd just disappear and you'd get fifty grand. Would you do it?" Substitute someone generally loathed (in my country it always ended up being George W. Bush) and almost everyone pushes the damn button. Continue on, gradually substituting less-evil people but increasing the money. At the end, when they finally draw the line, you reveal that the button killed the targets - but for each time you pressed it, one of your loved ones died too. It's, I dunno, some sort of philosophical moral about cause and effect. Someone (yes, in a pub) tried it on me, knowing very well that I constantly joked about dropkicking Bush into a sandy country with a target on his back (hey, I said it was a joke!). I said no. Repeatedly. No matter how they phrased it, or who they substituted, up to and including Hitler, which unbeknownst to me was ruining their thought experiment. When they started yelling at me that anyone in their right mind would push the button on Hitler, I sort of flipped out. I had this horrible panicking sensation, and I was yelling that Hitler pushed that stupid effing button on millions of people and did make money from it, what good would it do to behave the same way? Making people "disappear" was exactly what he did, by the millions. We ended up in a horrible fight and I was practically hyperventilating. My boyfriend at the time intervened and told our friend to get lost. So yeah. That button triggered a horrible emotional response in me, too. I hate that stupid button ¬_¬ It makes me feel sick when people talk about just erasing people, especially en masse (like the people wanting the US to turn the Middle East into a 'glass carpark' using nuclear missiles). Maybe it's past-life related and maybe it's just because I'm such a leftie, but either way, the visceral reaction to it isn't pleasant. I avoid those people as much as possible because otherwise I'll end up crying and yelling again >_<
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 9, 2011 17:04:49 GMT -5
I know what you mean about doing your own research. And that worked for me with my other past life, because I was able to verify everything I suspected with, quite well hidden documentary records. I literally trawled the record office and library archives when I first moved here and proved everything I suspected about the guy's affair and illegtimate kid. But how can one 100% know, in the terms we usually think of as knowing, when stuff comes from inside us? It could be insanity for example? It could be any number of different imbalances in the chemical make up of the brain. It could be wishful thinking. Or pandering to ones deepest fears. It could be excitement driven. It could be genuine channelling. It could be genuine reincarnation. It is so ambiguous. That's the trouble with this stuff. That's why I strongly suggest you try the Cerato essence. It should help lay all this to rest.I am not doubting your story for a second. You know what you know. Ah no, I understand what you're saying. But I cannot afford to take my situation at face value because I have to keep it together for my job. I cannot just go off on one about past lives, other than the one I have proved beyond reasonable doubt to even a local archivist. I understand - particularly with the RH identity.I have been to a psychologist years ago when I had my scary experience and they said my only problem was that I was too intelligent, ha ha! I baffled them as I kept predicting stuff and it would come true and they could not answer me as to why I was able to predict things about the Kosovo war, of all things! I scared them, lol! This is why I feel you should use the Mugwort one to help out with the extreme psychic aspect of your life. I recently took it not too awful long ago and man it has helped me immensely. Your psychic sensitivity seems to be 'all over the place' rather than balanced, grounded, and integrated within your psyche - which is why you're going through all of this. I'm only saying it because I have gone through it myself and I couldn't stand it.I mean we don't even know how the mind connects to the brain yet! It's a tough call. If I was RH how comes I was allowed back? That makes no sense to me. Unconditional Love - something that is, for the most part it seems, incomprehensible on Earth.Unless what came out under hypnosis about my alleged in between lives state was true and that I/he was a catalyst for a larger karmic agenda and was now having to come back to help heal some of it as in what I am involved in with healing the heart chakra of earth. But that could just as easily be born of a very vivid imagination couldn't it?! Oh well, I guess if the healing takes place it does not really matter which scenario is true, from the planet's perspective. but it matter to me as I need to know. I understand what you're saying here - from my understanding - it seems to me that you want to know if the 'light' is a distraction or if it is more 'genuine' in this instance. You don't need your time nor energy wasted on something that, by all appearances, looks 'benevolent' but could just be a waste to you.
This makes me think of another essence:
California Poppy Flower:
Positive qualities: Finding spirituality within one's heart; balancing light and love; developing an inner center of knowing.
Patterns of imbalance: Seeking outside oneself for false forms of light or higher consciousness, especially through escapism or addiction.
www.anandaapothecary.com/fes-north-american-flower-essences/california-poppy-flower-essence.htmlYes, my face is quite angular like RH. My forehead is similar. The eyebrows and lips. Yep.
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Post by Storm on Apr 9, 2011 21:35:10 GMT -5
Silver, I hate that button too! That button stinks!
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Post by Iseke on Apr 10, 2011 0:32:19 GMT -5
I had 3 dreams about dead people in woods that I felt responsible for killing. But in the last dream, when I got so upset I handed myself in to the police, the policeman just laughed and told me I hadn't killed anyone and to go away. I still can't work that out. I know RH did not physically kill the people himself, but he gave orders for it. SO that might explain it. But the dreams were in the UK. One was intersting in that the bodies were in the grounds of a mental hospital I used to live near, (I know they started off killing mental patients). The second dream was somewhere unknown to me and in the third dream I walked into a police station in Somerset of all places. I did wonder at the time if I had been a serial killer or something. I read loads of books about serial killers but I always knew I could never physically and coldly murder people for the sake of it, so I ruled that out. When I read that, I had a thought that the "murderer" in the dream was RH, and the person feeling the guilt and running to the police was you, in this life. And the police are laughing and telling you to run along, it wasn't you, you're not the murderer, and trying to be punished for his sins takes away the true power of your being here again, which is to heal and help set things right. Just my thoughts on that!
I'm sorry to hear you are struggling with your belief about whether you were RH or not. I think you should trust it; you wouldn't channel/integrate with this person if he were not truly important to you (a part of your soul). I think you can trust that much. Don't discount your experiences as being emotional hype or psychic debris; you'll just drive yourself crazy doing that. It's real.
I would say that meditating or divination are some good ways for you to verify whether these are true past life memories and not just you channeling. I feel like I'm being redundant telling you that, as you have so much more experience with it. All the same, at the moment you are struggling to trust your experiences, and when I struggle to understand the difference between dreams/remote viewing/channeling/PL memories I ask my higher self or guides for clarification.
Incidentally, did you have some kind of apparent timing conflict? Like another life overlapping RH's?
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 10, 2011 8:25:44 GMT -5
Wow, Prien! You can be a soul braid from birth! It's an awesome concept! I have ordered a reading out of interest. www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/karmdict/kdsbraid.htmI didn't know that. That's new to me...I thought it would only happen later in life as an adult. *laughs*It really sounds like me and RH may possibly be braided. Do we get to stay as one being I wonder, if we can make this incarnation work? No wonder I have never wanted to get married yet I never feel truly alone, even when I do, (if that makes any sense). I always felt like my partners were impeding on the me time I had to get to know the other part of myself that kept itself hidden. From all I've read it's a 'life sentence'. That makes sense to me what you're saying. For me it is different - because the prior soul left and I do feel alone. I feel like I'm missing my 'female companion'...my wife (and not necessarily my second wife from back then - Ingeborg) but a young blond haired lady...very feminine, traditional, etc.My real name means twin. I always felt I had was a twin soul and my mum had a strange dream when I was a baby. In it there was a woman who looks like I look now, but taller and more perfect, and a tall, blonde man who looked similar to Reini. They told her in no uncertain terms that she had to not get in my way as I had to do some task/job. This is why she let me do as I pleased as a kid. The dream actually helps make much sense of this sort of thing if you ask me.This is so interesting! But if you can indeed be a soul braid from birth as well as a walk in one, (which I do not think I am), that would explain everything in my life! I believe that spirit can help proramme DNA, so if me and RH incarnated together in my body at the same time that would explain his being able to programme part of his 'look' together with mine. It would also explain why he went to his wife to say goodbye just before I was born and the house burned down destroying all his SS stuff. And the astrological reading. I think this is where the confusion starts because of sites putting 'walk-in' in the same category as soul braiding - when what they really mean, is that the incoming soul -as they label the 'walk-in' soul - braids with the original soul of the body. The term 'walk-in' seems to be a sort of 'catch all' label and that's why I think people become easily confused with all of this information. In my case it is a soul exchange - prior soul leaves the 'walk-in' soul/new soul takes its place. Hope that helped.
That makes sense to me - my body changed (and is still changing thankfully - I just wish I could put more weight on...but all in due time...) It is also why I take great pains - and passion - to clear out the residual energy so I am not held back.So two can become one? That is AWESOME!! I LOVE that! I don't see why not. I don't totally understand the unseen world but I can't see why two distinct souls can't come together.I am so grateful to you Prien! I cannot express enough how this has made me feel! How positive! What a challenge! To have RH within me bonded to my spirit. Meshed and merged and intertwined so that I can learn to heal by loving him and change the vibration of that energy and the nature of that cold consciousness! And if I can heal my body totally, just a few little things, and carry on with my DNA realignment, (which really is amazing), then I might just reach the new level of consciousness I dream of! You're welcome. I've only ever come across two others that had the experience. And yes - it was challenging for them.
I agree that the DNA can be healed. I had come across a website even regarding using essential oils and how they help repair damaged DNA: - 3rd paragraph down in this article: www.dianaewald.com/DNA.htmlHow exciting!!! If this were true it would be the mother of all challenges and I am right up for it! Imagine that, I'd have to make the two work in harmony or I might die. That is so damned exhilarating!!! It gives me such a buzz! That is exactly what I need! Not just yet another reincarnation proving exercise, like I went through with the lord. I have done all that. I am bored with it!!! It's like my friend says, my other PL case is so well documented it could stand as a case study for proof of reincarnation. Simply establishing I was a basic reincarnation of Reini does not offer any spiritual growth and advantage for me, in fact it felt like a massive set back, though I knew he was a part of me somehow. It's all just a beastly karmic mess that needs to be mopped up as best one can and does not offer the impetus I crave to get to the next level of consciousness. I agree that the healing will not only benefit RH but also on the more collective level. Think of it like this - when one heals themselves they also help heal the collective. This is another reason why I am very passionate about healing - because it's not just for myself, but for humanity overall.I want to transform into something greater than the sum of my parts! This is great! It is the opportunity to do that. I will let you know how I go with this as I am going to investigate it now with a passion xx Ok - and feel free to give me a yell if you need to about anything.
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 10, 2011 9:02:30 GMT -5
Ah ok - I think you're doing the same thing I am only in a different way. Whereas you're using that technique, I'm using the essences and doing some 'house cleaning' on the subconscious level of the body's psyche. Because to me - that's where it all begins - in the subconsciousness. That's what I'm doing as well, only in my own 'odd' way - just be the real me. This would also entail, on more mundane levels, a legal name change as well. Whereas your 'real me' is by way of 'ascending up', my 'real me' is by way of grounding and getting my physical reality straightened out (hence the name change). I had come across this and I think it is somewhat relevant: According to Crowley, every individual has a True Will, to be distinguished from the ordinary wants and desires of the ego. The True Will is essentially one's "calling" or "purpose" in life. Some later magicians have taken this to include the goal of attaining self-realization by one's own efforts, without the aid of God or other divine authority. This brings them close to the position that Crowley held just prior to 1904.[44] Others follow later works such as Liber II, saying that one's own will in pure form is nothing other than the divine will.[45] Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law for Crowley refers not to hedonism, fulfilling everyday desires, but to acting in response to that calling. The Thelemite is a mystic.[44] According to Lon Milo Duquette, a Thelemite is anyone who bases their actions on striving to discover and accomplish their true will,[46] when a person does their True Will, it is like an orbit, their niche in the universal order, and the universe assists them.[47] In order for the individual to be able to follow their True Will, the everyday self's socially-instilled inhibitions may have to be overcome via deconditioning.[48][49] Crowley believed that in order to discover the True Will, one had to free the desires of the subconscious mind from the control of the conscious mind, especially the restrictions placed on sexual expression, which he associated with the power of divine creation.[50] He identified the True Will of each individual with the Holy Guardian Angel, a daimon unique to each individual.[51] The spiritual quest to find what you are meant to do and do it is also known in Thelema as the Great Work.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 10, 2011 9:44:47 GMT -5
I'm not 'involved' with Crowley myself - but the whole 'True Will' thing really 'resonates' with me and I understand what he means by it.
I totally agree with you re/ ascension as 'traditionally' talked about too. I think I'm getting to that point where the spiritual is becoming more fully integrated with the physical - I have it for the most part - for example: my vintage/retro living as 'modern' people call it...when all I'm doing is living how I lived back then because that is a part of the 'true me'. It might not seem fulfilling to others living in such a way, but spiritually it is fulfilling to me. If that makes sense.
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 10, 2011 10:53:06 GMT -5
Ah ok good. I don't own a TV myself, but sometimes sit down to watch something - but not really 'pay attention' to it. The only show I really care for is Deadliest Catch. Real. Raw. That's cool you don't go out and get drunk all the time like those other folks. I like an occassional drink myself. Oh that's neat you got your style integrated as well! That's cool! I try to keep the modern stuff to a minimum - I could live without the microwave, it would just take some minor adjustments.
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Post by kapitanprien on Apr 10, 2011 11:15:45 GMT -5
I had to look that up - that's very nice! It will most likely 'pay for itself' as they say despite costing an 'arm and a leg'. Oh my word! *laughs* That's cool that you have that connection with fishermen and mariners - I'm not so fortunate at the moment being in 'cow country' That would be neat if you did join a sailing club ;D
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Post by msmir on May 27, 2011 23:40:41 GMT -5
I have to say I have not yet heard of this! Sounds interesting.
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