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Post by mccoyxyz on Jul 31, 2010 11:21:17 GMT -5
There is a general rule of thumb stating a karmic clue is really only valid where you can find no present life explanation. Expressed differently, if you can find a present life and a past life explanation for something, almost always the present life factor trumps the past life one in influence. Example: you are exceptionally good at math. If one of your parents is, then almost certainly the origin of your talent is genetic, not karmic. However if both parents are poor at it, you now may have a valid karmic clue. Now myself, the $64 question: of all that is wrong with my life, what part can honestly be debited to Adolf and Co? For some of you that may be a lot. I happen to have Asperger Syndrome, essentially the rich-cousin variant of autism, something you are born with. Shock from previous life? Perhaps, but far more likely the fact my maternal grandfather was a famous professor/scientist, listed in Who's Who of that era, and clearly had Asperger. As for the several personality disorders which aren't really all that heavy duty, all clearly come from upbringing, from the fact neither parent would have much odds of passing a court-mandated test of sanity. Taking everything into consideration, there is only one thing I can clearly blame on nazis. I have a wildly exaggerated need for space around me, which I attribute to having been in the ghetto. I avoid things like exhibitions, detest Christmas shopping. I do frequent coffee houses and restaurants, but only those times and places where there will be at least one table empty in all directions around me. For that, there simply is no present life tie-in, nothing at all that would explain that.
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Jul 31, 2010 17:53:11 GMT -5
I agree with you wholeheartedly that we have all carried karma from lifetime to lifetime, and that it manifests somewhere down the road. In my case, bouts of anxiety that originated in a past life a long time ago have popped up in various past lives up to and including my current life. However, recognizing this fact has helped me look into it more and tp try to break the cycle.
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Post by msmir on Jul 31, 2010 19:15:50 GMT -5
I have found it common for many of those who had suffered from past life torture and died a torturous death to have Asperger's or a form of autism, or may have some form of other neurological issue. I will explain what my thoughts are on this and by no means is it correct. But this is just how I see it. The reason I can think of is when you are facing so much trauma and torture, your only "safe haven" is falling into a "fantasy land"..anything to make you escape reality. Then you perish and die a traumatic death in that same state of mind, you will come back in a similar state (I have read from various sources that we do come back into an incarnation holding onto a similar vibration that we had in our last lives at the time of our death and through past life astrological analyses I have done, I have also noticed that). Those with autism or Asperger's have a different way of viewing life, and will develop differently, in a pace that is comfortable to them than those who do not have any major neurological issue. I believe Asperger's in this case is a form of inner protection, so those who have it will live a life that is completely secure and comfortable to them. It may also create frustration because of not "fitting in" to society's standards. However, I also feel it is an opportunity for those to gain strength after going through that kind of torture in order to learn to embrace their differences instead of being ashamed of it because "society looks down on it". It's an opportunity for them to express who they are, and to live the life that suites them the best without them having to be put down in anyway for living their lives. Of course not all reincarnated victims will be born with a neurological issue like autism, and it may be that they may have not fallen into a state of fantasy before their deaths. And sometimes what we go through in life or what we choose to go through in life may not necessarily be karmic. We are constantly wanting to evolve and the only way is yes, to balance karma but to gain new experiences. When you think about why this and that happens, it can really make your head spin. But that is my take on all of it! Have a great evening, and be well.
Cheers, Mir
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Post by lulz on Aug 10, 2010 1:12:16 GMT -5
Miss Bothman, I also struggle with anxiety due to my previous life. I was forced to go into hiding in order to avoid capture and execution. Needless to say, I was terrified everyday, and felt I was living in nearly constant fear. I wasn't very good at dealing with stress, and it got to be bad for my health. I believe that because I never coped well with stress, I still deal with just as high of a stress level now. I still find myself becoming so anxious and stressed out that I can loose too much weight or cause myself to be sick. That is something I'd like to change.
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Post by Miss Bothmann on Aug 11, 2010 14:33:08 GMT -5
I am sorry to hear that lulz. I definitly know what you mean about it making you physically sick. If I let the anxiety get the better of me, I will literally get the worst migraine headaches in the world. Also, I suffer lack of sleep, I get irritable, and I lose focus...simply over the "what ifs?" Now that I recognize this however (as well as where it is stemming from), I feel that I am better able to deal with it. Unfortunately, just like any negative vice or habit, there are times where I feel it slip out of control, mostly when it is health-related issues. These are the times when I force myself into some form of relaxation or meditation. Then, I feel I have the courage to face it head-on and see what is behind it.
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Post by Iseke on Sept 11, 2010 21:25:05 GMT -5
In regards to the question of whether one can dismiss a trait as having a past life influence simply by finding a corresponding event in the present life, I'd have to say that while I agree the current life is the first place to look for the origin of an issue, I don't agree that past life experiences have nothing to do with it. What I mean is that an issue stemming from this life may have been influenced or exacerbated by a past life experience.
In this lifetime, at the age of two I climbed to my grandparents' medicine cabinet and swallowed a bunch of blood thinner pills. (Possible exit point? Anyway, that's another conversation.) I was rushed to the hospital and given ipecac, causing me to...develop emetophobia. I do not remember this event after having swallowed the pills but read about it later since my mom had written it down. I know that my emetophobia stems in large part from this current life event but is very connected to my previous life.
My fears in this life became a myriad of things: I was (and still am, but to a lesser extent) terrified of being given any kind of medication, being handled in any way by medical personnel, being fed poisoned food, being on airplanes or boats, and especially of being around those who had some kind of contagious stomach bug. I have no doubt that the framework which created these fears was set in my previous life, and that the event in my current life simply served to bring it to the forefront of my consciousness. In any case, there are some strong parallels between this event from the perspective of a two year old and what went on in the camps.
In other words, I see it all as being interconnected. Sometimes we find ourselves in situations in this life that are reminiscent of or connected to similar events in a past life. All of this may serve to make the experience (or lesson in some cases) more clear to the soul in question. I don't believe that each life exists in isolation from the others, but rather that they interact and build upon each other.
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Post by msmir on Sept 11, 2010 22:40:16 GMT -5
In this lifetime, at the age of two I climbed to my grandparents' medicine cabinet and swallowed a bunch of blood thinner pills. (Possible exit point? Anyway, that's another conversation.) I was rushed to the hospital and given ipecac, causing me to...develop emetophobia. I do not remember this event after having swallowed the pills but read about it later since my mom had written it down. I know that my emetophobia stems in large part from this current life event but is very connected to my previous life.
Iseke, when I was 4 I swallowed my grandfather's heart pill which was lying in the middle of the kitchen, and believed it was candy. After I asked my mom who did not see me take the pill why the "candy" tasted bad.. she realized what happened and rushed me to the hospital and was given ipecac. I think that incident brought my horrible memories of any vomiting that I had seen in my last life in the experimental labs to the surface and I had become fully emetophobic as a result in this life.. I know of someone else who had a similar experience, taking some medication at a young age and had to be given ipecac but he was not affected by the incident.. as he is not emetophobic. It is quite possible that he had no past life issues involving traumatic experiences with vomiting.. and that could be why he was not affected.. hard to say. But I have always felt that incident I had at 4 was NOT what had completely caused my phobia.. I knew it was something that happened in the past, that incident however just made me "remember" what happened and in a way I had relived the experience... as a result I am now emetophobic and always have been.. especially since I was 4. I am no where near facing it... thank goodness my kids are generally healthy and that I have an understanding husband when it comes to that.. ironically if I had not had the pill removed.. I would have been fine... I feel that was not an exit point for me, just a case of very bad luck
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Post by euskanoravian on Sept 12, 2010 17:49:33 GMT -5
My 11 year old daughter, who died in Auschwitz in her previous life is terrified of vomiting- herself and others doing it. It makes it hard for her and myself since I am in poor health, and I am sick often. She never had a traumatic incident in her current life having to do with vomiting. Not that I am aware of anyway. She has always been afraid of it. Her fear of vomit became obvious around the age of two. If any of my other girls or myself would be sick, she would scream and hide somewhere in the house. Her reaction to sickness has always been sad to watch, mostly because I could not help her with her suffering with this. She is only 11 and swears up and down that she is never going to have kids because of her phobia of vomit. I know she is so young to make such a decision now, but I feel she is likely going to be right. MsMir you are extremely fortunate that for one, your kids are healthy and don't get sick often. Secondly that you have a helpful husband if they do. My husband is wonderful but if I was in the same situation, I am not sure how patient he would be with that.
Blessed Be, Andi
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Post by msmir on Sept 12, 2010 20:33:20 GMT -5
I am sorry to hear this about your daughter...if she is so adamant about not having kids, even at the age she is at then she won't likely have kids.. ironically even though I had this phobia I wanted kids!! Even from a young age.. because on a soul level I knew it was meant for me. My daughter hates the cries of babies... it just annoys her but everytime I ask her if she sees herself having kids one day.. without hesitation she says "yes". So when you are so sure of something, it's your soul speaking, not your ego and your soul knows what it has planned for the incarnation. And from the way your husband sounds..I bet he would be patient. People can surprise you. My husband has his lazy moments.. believe me, but when it comes to the kids being sick which thankfully is rare (the Universe knows!! I believe that) my husband 100% jumps in to take care of it. I used to feel guilty about being a "bad mom" because I could not and am unable to care for my kids if they are throwing up.. and others have even told me that I am selfish.. yes even others who have emetophobia (long story but I have had problems with many from so-called support groups that focus on this issue) but you know what, f* them!! I am far from a bad mom and just because I can't do this one thing, that does not make me a bad mom. My daughter at age 6 even understood and my son intuitively knows. I used to make excuses for not dealing with the phobia but I am not required to face it in this life.. and the fact of the matter is I am not ready to deal with it... and that is fine. I have always stressed to others who have been dealing with past life trauma is YES we are in this incarnation to start healing and we have to make an effort to push forward.. but only at the pace that is comfortable! We know deep down what we are ready to work on.. and we also know what lessons are meant to be put on the back burner. Oh and these others who have the same phobia who have conquered their phobia and brag about it at the same time.. well good for them! My answer to them was perhaps one of their missions in their lives WAS to conquer the phobia! That does not go for everyone who has it... so many of them are so closed minded that they would never in a million years take that into consideration! UGH (thanks for allowing me to vent, but when I think of those from that community my blood boils!) LOL.. trust me so many of them are so judgmental. I want nothing to do with people like that, this is one of the reasons I love this place
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