Historical record frustrations

[Leutnantzursee]

Yes, I think a number of us have had these issues nomadicsoul, and continue to. For myself - I did find a 'Peter Hennings' listed as a crew member on the Scharnhorst, he was also the right rank (number of stripes on Naval sleeve - as seen in regression) and the right age. I know the name 'Peter' was one of my names because of a dream, but I had said under hypnosis that my name was Emil Hennings and that I died the north Atlantic in 1943. It's a good match, but I don't know how to find out anymore about this crewman. If he were Austrian born (or resident there) then that would be proof. I do have some compelling place evidence from my PL regressions, and that has been one thing, that and the Austrian HJ uniform, (that I couldn't have possibly known) that helped me have some faith in my PL. :-) But no, conclusive proof - I don't have.

I would say, knowing German naming customs, we may well have used a 'family' name informally and the name we were baptized with publicly. This might account for your Jurgen/Konrad connection, like my Peter/Emil. Out of interest, have you done any regression work with hypnosis? Even though, it was a recording, it worked really well for me, as I say :-)

[nomadicsoul]

I have done some, but it's not been done by professionals, unfortunately, and ADHD makes it extremely difficult for me to meditate and do my own (self-led) ones. I've had some success with leading for other people, although I always tell them that they should take it all with a grain of salt!

What you mention about the naming customs is very interesting- I wasn't aware of that at all, but it makes sense!

Is the recording available on disc or online, and, if you wouldn't mind, would you be willing to share the name of it?

If I come across a Peter Hennings in my wanderings I will be sure to tell you about them!

[Leutnantzursee]

Hi nomadicsoul :-) Sorry, I am so behind with posts, I've been busy as its my daughter's birthday and I've had loads of 'mumsy' stuff to do!

I know the self-hypnosis regression method isn't fail safe, but I found it did reveal a lot of stuff that I was able to verify as I say. Still, its only one of several methods and I know most people are more confident about information they get from elsewhere :-) Interesting that have ADHD nomadicsoul, I'm also a 'sufferer' an undiagnosed case, called 'dyslexic' back in the 70's when I was little, but now reading the information online about how females present so differently to boys, I do exactly fit the high functioning autism group. However, personally I don't have a problem meditating or getting into deep relaxation, maybe because female ADHD's are the 'inattentive' sort, so can daydream for hours undisturbed. But, yes - I can sympathize with that problem and can see why it wouldn't work for you :-)

Thanks about Peter Hennings - and good luck with your own searching :-)

[Leutnantzursee]

Hiya nomadicsoul :-)

You know, it is weird about autism spectrum and our past lives, I've been really mulling it over, the past week or so. One possibility is to do with being rhesus negative (apparently 54% of cases are R neg). I'm A - which according to SS3 was the preferred blood group for the SS, Himmler saw negs as having more 'Aryan blood' and of course there are the theories about it being the 'grail blood' (make of that, what you will ) Another theory says it might be connected to the Neanderthals, as well as autism. I really don't know, but I'm wondering how many folks on this board are rhesus negative and/or presenting on the autism spectrum, or have family members with these factors going on. I think it may well ring true for the Holocaust survivors too, it is really curious.

I will respond to your post about the scrying in a mo :-) my weekends are busy as you can imagine, so I'm still catching up - and thanks for the 'happy birthday' wishes - she was 17, my eldest is 23, so I'm one of the older people on this forum at 46! I know how frustrating it is gleaning psychic info, I have a similar problem, insomuch as I get stuff, but don't always believe it, although my intuition about things usually turns out to be true in the end. I agree with you, I think we do live so many lives on all sorts of levels of consciousness and if you're ADHD/ADD because of our natural 'sponge' tendencies we can pick up everything like a radio antennae - it can be very confusing knowing what comes from ourselves and what is just detritus in the universe - I swear if we tuned in enough, we'd be able to hear the static of the Big Bang! ;D But if you get 'an icy feeling' as you describe it, I'd say go with that, usually the bodily reaction is accurate because something deep has been recognized, something that bypasses the rational filters of the mind. Yes - I've always been skeptical of famous PL, until I was presented with one during a meditation and it connected to a powerful lucid dream I had years ago. I was thinking of doing a 'show and tell' thread for any of us who want to own up to who we thought we might have been who was well-known, back in the day, or has since become famous. Mine isn't anyone THAT well known, but he has gained an unfair reputation in later years for being a 'Satanist' - he was nothing of the sort! Anyway, will leave that for another time!

[Demi]

Hello!

Interesting about ADD/ADHD, I was thinking I could have it too but it did not quite compute, but someone told me that I could have some degree of asparagus ('aspergers' is the right spelling!),
I've read a little bit about that and I can relate to having many of the symptoms (except clumsiness, but I do tend to be a little to 'rough' in my movements without it being on purpose and people get p*ss*d . I've always had trouble understanding others 'subtle signals' emotions, taking things too personally/direct, saying stuff they misunderstand, shunning social situations because it's too much a P.I.T.A making me uncomfy, prefer my own company or nature, being totally nerdy and 'into' different things, all this yes!

The definition:
'Asperger's Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder where individuals of normal intelligence and language development display serious deficits in both social and communication skills that impairs their resourceful functioning in society.'

There is a whole lot about it here and how it relates to PL's: www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/karmdict/kdasperg.htm

Basically, it says that someone with aspergers now was a past life nerd, various types thereof are suggested, and either isolated him/herself, was talented and arrogant, or a 'brutal bureaucrat' (those are sometimes called nazis)

An astrologer once told me: Past life refusal to help others and some wrong use of authority' should be the reason for all this, but I can imagine being nerdy AND talented coz' that's exactly what I am now so it must have come from somewhere!

Also on the same website there is an article about 'lack of face recognition' which nomadicsoul talked about in one of the posts. I have been having it too, esp. as child and teenager (and it's a problem when someone changes their coat! it's much better now luckily.

Here is the link:
www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/karmdict/kdprosop.htm

I recommend the rest of this huge awesome past life ressources database:
www.healpastlives.com/indxkeys.htm

All the best
Demi

[msmir]

Interesting because many reincarnated victims are under the autism spectrum and have ADHD as well. I definitely have ADHD and some Asperger's-like-traits. It was a lot more pronounced when I was a child. I had been told by a medium the reason she believed that many reincarnated victims came back with "neurological differences" was because it was a protective mechanism to prevent the worst of past life memories coming through since children under the age of 6 can remember their past lives very easily. Therefore many reincarnated victims could not handle dealing with the memories as little children and these "neurological differences" prevented the memories to come through at such a young age anyway. Rabbi Gershom who had written several books on Holocaust reincarnation felt the same way as he himself is a reincarnated victim with Asperger's. So this is quite interesting.

People with ADHD and Asperger's obviously have a unique way of seeing the world and hate to conform. It would not be surprising if many reincarnated victims ended up with that as well for that reasons, to march to their own beat since they were not allowed to in their previous lives.. same goes with many Nazis as well, so this could be a reason.

It is frustrating to have ADHD as you are always feeling so scattered.. but then again this is why I am in the social media and internet marketing field, it's the best kind for me because it is filled with "noise" and I like that.

[Leutnantzursee]

Wow - this is really interesting! So, there's four of us who can relate to the autism spectrum issues, I hope some more people come forward too :-) Miriam that is fascinating about the victims and Rabbi Gershom, once again it seems both perpetrators and victims have had to deal with a lot of the same karma in this life. I suppose in a way, both the Jews and Nazis believed they were' chosen' in some way, special, and I think that too links us a soul group. I also wonder how many of the victims have been tyrannical in PL's before the war. Maybe in this life autism is what links us in our journeys to healing, it levels us so much and gives us such a bolster in our communications. It makes me think of the strangeness of the word 'Ashkanazi' - Ashka-NAZI - there lies the truth of what we are to each other, the same soul and mostly the same blood. We all can relate to the pain of living, of feeling isolated and sometimes castigated and misunderstood. I think this is really powerful and beautiful :-) Yes - thanks Demi for passing on that info, that is really interesting too and I can so relate to it!

OK nomadicsoul, I'll post about my famous PL in the members only forum - I don't know what to make of it in many ways, I'm not particularly bothered if its true or not, but either way I have some kind of spiritual connection to this man! I hope others will come forward, we don't have to be all that serious about it, at the end of the day! :-)

Liz x

[Demi]

I've had some experiences where I saw a very close soul connection between Nazis and victims (and even a one-to one relationship between particular perpetrators and their victims) as if they were having a 'soul contract' to work out, having been together many times before and the victims having acted as perpetrators before towards the same souls who came back as Nazis. A sort of 'kicking the ball back and forth'.

This would explain having similar symptoms too, as we often work out stuff from not just one, but several past lives!

I hope I get the time to post some of those specific experiences.

All the best,
Demi

[Leutnantzursee]

Wow Demi - so glad that resonated with you. :-) I agree with what you say about 'kicking the ball back and forth'. I do think there may have been many cases where individuals worked out more personal karma in the war, as well as collectively, it can be difficult to take on board I know, especially if children and innocent civilians are the victims. Yet I know on a soul level, that a lot of the time those who get a rough deal in one life, tend to have been dishing out the same cruelty in a previous. Although I suspect there might be a degree or levels in which we can give lessons or receive them, i think if we transcend our impulse to exact 'revenge' in some way, we can work out that karma more constructively. Perhaps every situation that tests us, can go in any way we allow it. we can either run headlong into battle with that person, or we can find a loving solution that doesn't hurt them. I think sometimes we even get tests for ourselves, where we can swing the pendulum into a more central place instead of swiping back because we feel a need to 'hurt' someone. I'm sure our soul contracts have this built in, a sort of three tier choice of karmic resolution and if we manage the more loving option, we maybe get our 'wings' as it were. It sure is the 'school of hard knocks' this side of the divide, that's for sure! :-)

[Demi]

Very beautiful! I agree with you Lizzie, and I think learning how to react constructively to the challenges coming our way is the *main* process of soul growth. And the more we learn it, the more we are able to live in harmony and in tune with ourselves & the creative intelligence. When we come closer to the central point, we become more able to perform action being centered in our own self instead of our reactive nature, and we start to re-direct the karma coming our way and transform it into something that is not going to hurt us back.

There is a quote from the Gita, the most famous, I believe: 'Established in Being perform action', and Being here means, our innermost central point.

I remember reading some past life stories of victims and it's interesting that several of them had cognized earlier life times as perpetrators which was now coming back.
It seems to be a reoccurring experience on both sides!

All the best,
Demi

[Leutnantzursee]

Yes Demi - I'm coming around more and more to this idea - and this time around we do seem to have the tools to heal very constructively, being as most of us are, forgiving and keen to grow from our mistakes this time around, or else we'd be living the lie as un-evolved neo's in some backwater of the spirit I guess!LOL

[Leutnantzursee]

Hi nomadicsoul :-)

Bringing this thread sharply back on topic - I just found this info on one of the German WW2 personnel sites, I thought you might find this interesting, bearing in mind what I was saying about the use of different names. Seems, it wasn't uncommon for someone to have two surnames. I've copied and pasted the relevant info below...

"1. The most confusing form of 'German surname is that in which a person has two surnames, of which he habitually uses only one, since there is no general rule to indicate which of the two names is generally used. For example, Field Marshal von Lewinski genannt von Manstein (literally, von Lewinski called von Manstein) is customarily known as von Manstein, and he is listed among the field marshals under the letter M. However, Lt General von Hartlieb genannt Wal-sporn is normally known as von Hartlieb, and he is therefore listed under the letter H.

2. In some cases of double surnames, where the term genannt is not employed,the von (equivalent to de in French surnames) is customarily transposed; for example, General Geyr von Schweppenburg, formerly German Military Attache \in London, is normally referred to as von Geyr. In general, where two surnames are connected by und (and), the first of the two is used: thus, Lt General von Rothkirch und Panthen is usually called von Rothkirch. Hyphenated names are often but not invariably used in full."

This might explain my Hennings/Schreiber conundrum, it might also explain why you've not been able to pinpoint Jurgen yet :-)

[Demi]

And I've got something like that going on too.. Glocke/Salgenbacher (I think the spelling of last one is wrong as I did not write it down right after the regression I did).
One could be a nick name or/and the other could be someone else but, it sounded like someone standing behind me was calling me that.

All the best,
Demi

[nomadicsoul]

I hope I am not "necro"ing this thread by replying so late!

Oh man, that does add another entire element, doesn't it? (And it explains a lot of the annoyance I was running into with my genealogy, between immigration records and christening records for ancestors!) Thank you for posting this!

Thank you both, Lizzie and Demi- the plot thickens, doesn't it? Hm...

[Leutnantzursee]

That's great that this info was some help Nomad - yes, I thought it explained so much why a number of us have this confusion over a couple of names we know belong to us, yet wondering if one if wrong and one is right. I certainly know I used the name Peter (as that was the name I dreamed about) yet in the regression i called myself Emil. It might make it easier to trace these men too (one hopes!) Let us know if you make a breakthrough with finding your man's identity - that would be so exciting! :-)