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Post by Miss Bothmann on Feb 11, 2011 17:06:50 GMT -5
Aww..I am happy to hear that my recollections have helped you in some way. Welcome to the site, silver. I think that everyone else who has responded to you basically summed up what I would have said about our soul's hourney. Just let me stress that there is no wrong way to experience recollections. They come through differently for everyone. In my past life as Anna, there were some personality aspects of hers that disgust me now (such as spitting at and speaking down to Jewish people). However, through my meditations I have learned to accept those aspects of hers as who she was ...not as who I am now. Therefore, I try not to fester any guilt about it now. I will admit that this doesn't always work. On the flip side of Anna's faults, there are some traits about her that were absolutely beautiful. I draw strength from these traits, and I try to embody them more in who I am now. If you ever want to pm me, feel free. Also, I am looking forward to reading anything you may remember in the future.
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Post by msmir on Feb 12, 2011 0:34:07 GMT -5
Silver thanks so much for your reply and your words are very wise. Sometimes it is just ok to have a phobia and it does not always need work. I know in my heart that this can be put on the back burner since I have so many other priorities to work on. And you are right, if people are gonna judge it, that it their problem. I just know with emetophobia it is a very sensitive issue and many emetophobes are sensitive about it. I am not sure how it is with others who have other phobias but yes there is an element to emetophobia which creates this kind of challenge. Those who are ready to conquer it will do what they can in their power to do so.. the problem is the majority of those who I know who have the same phobia will immediately judge other emetophobes for not being on the same page as them as far as healing from it goes.
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Post by kapitanprien on Feb 12, 2011 14:08:07 GMT -5
I just want to say 'Hello' to you Silver.
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Post by silver on Feb 19, 2011 12:02:35 GMT -5
Heh, this response is going in reverse order because I'm too lazy to click the 'Page 1' button right now >>
Hi, kapitanprien :]
Thank you, MsMir. I'm a true newbie when it comes to pretty much everything on this lovely board, but not - sadly - when it comes to emetophobia. You're right; because the phobia encompasses everything, daily life to vacations, a lot of sufferers feel that trying to overcome it is the only solution, making it a sensitive topic to be truly open about. But I believe you when you say that defeating it simply isn't one of your priorities this time around, and honestly, I sort of envy that ;P If it doesn't rule your life, then you know whether or not it needs work. Truth is, because it rules so many of our lives, we don't really have a choice on whether to try and conquer it. Maybe that envy is part of the problem ;]
Miss Bothmann, thanks for the welcome <3 I really want to find some positive traits of Marlene's, so that I have something to hold onto when it comes to remembering her. I hate the idea of seeing an ordinary person (as opposed to, erm, Hitler) as wholly bad. I think it's narrow-minded, and something we all struggle with. Perhaps that's one of the reasons I remembered what I did, to give me an immediate challenge in trying to overcome initial perceptions, as well as to gauge whether I can dissociate myself from her past actions. Eh, who knows? xD
Sorry you got sick on vacation, Laurasia! I've noticed members mentioning that bad memories seem to come up at the worst times - when relaxing on holiday, or already sick. Funnily enough, I had a scrap of another memory when I was hungover last week. Happily it wasn't especially negative, or my stomach would have staged a revolution :P
Thanks for all the info, it's greatly appreciated. I've tried a few guided regressions but it just doesn't seem to work - there were a few on Youtube (I'm a big believer in try-before-you-buy, at least when I'm broke) and one that lasted an hour and a half. I visualised as instructed, but he spent forty-five minutes giving different scenarios - "Now you're going down the steps/stairs/hill - thirty... twenty-nine... twenty-eight..." - that, while the imagery changed, were all about going down stairs. Repeatedly. Unendingly. At first I was quite relaxed and it was working, but around the twenty-five minute mark I started to get annoyed, and by the time he was done all I could think was OH MY GOD, FINALLY. So... if yours are too fast, I'll dig out the playlist for you. Beware, though, 'slow' is an understatement.
Anyway, erm, at that stage I wasn't really in a good place to do anything except think of all the wasted minutes of my life I wasn't getting back xD That said, Woolger's regressions sound promising. Quite practical, and a different method than any of those I've come across. I'll read up on him.
I haven't had much chance to meditate lately, even though I keep meaning to. We're having financial issues and it's just impossible to clear my mind. Will, of course, update if/when something happens :]
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Post by msmir on Feb 20, 2011 0:00:17 GMT -5
Hi Silver, unfortunately it is a tough thing with past life regression therapy. There are lots of different methods out there for people to access past life memories but what works for one person will not work for another. And remember too, if you are not on a soul level ready to remember memories that would be traumatic for you to remember at this time you simply will not. And you may on an ego level believe you are ready to remember but on a soul level you know it is not the right time. Hang in there, I believe that memories will start coming together and the pieces to the puzzle will be filled at the right time.
Oh boy and yeah I may not need to deal with the emet in this life but believe me I have had tonnes of other things to deal with and I still struggle with that on a daily basis. At the right time in my soul development I bet anything in a future life I will be having to raise a puking kid LOL... yikes.. kill the thought!
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Post by silver on Feb 20, 2011 12:42:19 GMT -5
Ouch, MsMir xD Since I'm trying to work on it in this life - and I don't plan on having kids - I'm trying to start small and work up. When my cat's ill, I hide out of sight (the sound doesn't bother me too much, it's very non-human) and then rush in, cover it with a tissue in a drive-by-marking, and then go tell my brother we need a clean up in aisle four ;] I used to go for a walk if Cookie was sick, so I'm getting better!
Now isn't a good time to remember anything; if I can't meditate, I'm definitely not in the right frame of mind to learn about past actions. Finances should sort themselves out next month, and hopefully by that point I'll be able to relax a little. I agree that my ego is a lot more confident than my soul is, lol - I'm always thinking "oh go on, I can handle it!" but evidently not ;P
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Post by msmir on Feb 20, 2011 23:57:34 GMT -5
Hehe I have kids but thankfully they rarely get sick. And if they do it's my husband's job to take care of it. I can't even deal with my dog getting sick and my daughter protects me whenever he does. She tells me not to look and I think it is so cute how she does that. But she knows about my phobia. But yes you have to start small and work your way up, for anything really. And hey you will remember when the timing is right! You are here so it is a good sign that you are on the track to start remembering. Starting small is what helps you leap to bigger things
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Post by kapitanprien on Feb 23, 2011 13:16:54 GMT -5
MsMir: There are lots of different methods out there for people to access past life memories but what works for one person will not work for another. And remember too, if you are not on a soul level ready to remember memories that would be traumatic for you to remember at this time you simply will not. And you may on an ego level believe you are ready to remember but on a soul level you know it is not the right time. Hang in there, I believe that memories will start coming together and the pieces to the puzzle will be filled at the right time. I got to agree with that. I also think that we are connected to specific times - like I'm more emotionally connected to the 20s-30s than the 40s. If anything most of my U-Boat memories are from 1940 because I was only out on one patrol in early '41.
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Post by Laurasia on Feb 23, 2011 16:07:48 GMT -5
Hi Silver.
45 minutes?! My goodness! Even if my computer could handle YouTube, I would not have been able to handle that! I like a naturally-paced happy medium. Kind of like when doing an EVP session during a paranormal investigation....don't just fire off questions in rapid succession, give the entity a chance to respond. Well when I'm told to "go somewhere" or "visualize a scenario" I want to be given enough time to get there & get settled comfortably into the scene before being instructed to focus on something else. 45 minutes is way too much though! Even I'm not that bad at meditating! LOL!
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by silver on Feb 24, 2011 10:56:32 GMT -5
Hi loves,
Lol, Laurasia! I'm glad I'm not the only one with a limit on how many stairs she can imagine descending ;P I made it to the fourth staircase but the annoyance was beginning to bubble - every time you finished going down, he gave you a nice scene, and then went "...and you see a staircase-" and my meditative state got increasingly more difficult to maintain, because I was thinking ANOTHER &^%$ing staircase?!.
Eventually I called time on the attempt and skipped ahead (four and a half videos in, dear Bob) to see if he actually intended to do anything other than make people imagine themselves going down stairs. He did, but by that point there were several comments on the videos along the lines of "He should have started the regression two videos ago!" and "if anyone ever asks me to visualise stairs again, I'll have a nervous breakdown".
I'm not the fastest with visualising; I'm actually practising to get better at it, as it doesn't come easily at all. But I think it's worse when I spend so much time in the scene - it's hard to hold in my head. That's part of the reason solo, non-guided meditation seems to work for me; I work on emptying my mind. When memories come up, I'm not trying to imagine them or working to visualise them, they just happen.
I tried another guided video the other day, and it was all going quite well until we got to the The Door - the one you go through to a count of five seconds, where a scene from a past life awaits. I went through and there was absolutely nothing. It was slightly anti-climactic ;] I'll be sticking with the iso-tones and the breathing techniques for a while yet!
<3
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Post by privatetucker on Feb 25, 2011 19:45:57 GMT -5
Hi, Silver, and welcome! Been ages since I've been around here but Iseke told me to check out your thread, so here I am! I emphasize with you on the phobia, I am the same way. Though strangely enough, I'm starting to get over it recently. Some of it definitely ties to the trauma of my death, and the fact that someone else I knew from this lifetime and that lifetime helped me heal, and the fact that I have this one allergy I didn't realize I had for ages, and it used to make me sick a lot. I hope either way, you are able to heal from it, and move on, because it sucks. When it comes to meditation...I don't know if instrumental music works for you, but I've found a few pieces that throw me into a trance fairly quickly. Don't know if they'll work for you 'cause different strokes for different folks and whatnot, but here are linkz anyway. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrQCd8WDgw (Though this one could just be from the connotation I have with it; I dunno). www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QDl2XTAPvEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEk824VIas
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Post by kapitanprien on Feb 27, 2011 10:44:59 GMT -5
I don't meditate as it actually disconnects me too much from the physical. Since I wasn't reincarnated by birth, I have to do things that are/seem rather 'opposite' to you folks. It is good to hear though that you can recover what you are able to no matter which way you go about doing it.
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